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Old 04-26-2020, 08:40 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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There's a reason why schools were the first to close.
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And what is that reason?
Ask the Governor. I highly doubt schools were randomly chosen to be the first to close.

In RI, it all began at St. Raphael Academy in Pawtucket after a field trip to Europe (including Italy). Pawtucket borders Massachusetts...and I believe several students and faculty members live in Massachusetts.

And let's keep in mind that it was very secretive at the beginning. For example, with the first case in RI (a faculty member from St. Raphael), they wouldn't even say which hospital he went to.

I believe a lot of info is still being withheld.
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Old 04-26-2020, 08:58 PM
 
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The logical reason on why the closed schools is because it’s hundreds gathered together all day. Look how colds and other viruses spread through schools. Daycares are filled with germs, kids get each other’s germs there all day.

It seems like grocery stores keep being brought up. Do you really think that many are contracting it from them ? I know grocery store workers have but they’re in there for 4 to 8 hours breathing in hundreds of people’s germs. I’m just not sure the average person who walks in there for 15 min with a mask and leaves is at that high of a risk.

I’ll say it again, I’m not undermining this virus and I hope it goes away but way more people haven’t gotten it than have.
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Old 04-26-2020, 09:41 PM
 
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Mass has what, 2500 deaths? 3000 soon enough. About 150 a day rate.
Perhaps Massachusetts should start showing the dead bodies on TV, in the news. And where ever they are storing them.

How about setting up road side memorials ++++++ at the entrance to every Mass town and city, one cross to represent each person killed by the virus in the town or city.
Ok, lets do this then with car accidents, cancer, the flu, pneumonia, and every other virus or disease. Nobody cared or paid attention when 80,000 plus Americans died in 2017-2018 of the flu.
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Old 04-26-2020, 10:52 PM
 
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Ok, lets do this then with car accidents, cancer, the flu, pneumonia, and every other virus or disease. Nobody cared or paid attention when 80,000 plus Americans died in 2017-2018 of the flu.

Its the media pushing that this virus is so dangerous. I dont believe we should of shut down buisnesses with this virus we dont know how bad the economy will get. If it tanks ill be rubbing it in everybodys face. So many countries locking everything down. oh when people sober up when we have a depression ill tell them I told you so. Its called herd mentallity where everyone falls in line and accepts what the goverment tells them . We could of practiced social distancing without hurting the economy. . What if we did it all for nothing? its too early to tell. we have to wait a year and see the numbers of every country. We might only be delaying deaths.
When we open buisness up again we will get waves . Sweden is keeping buisness open and yes their numbers are higher but lets come back in a year and see what the real numbers are for each country. They claim they will reach herd immunity if it exists but we will see and I will be watching their numbers. Even though buisnesses are open people are not going out as much even though they have the freedom to do so in Sweden.

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Old 04-26-2020, 11:10 PM
 
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https://thediplomat.com/2020/04/covi...e-japan-model/

What is going on with Japans low numbers?

there have only been 100 deaths in toyko? that is a densely populated city where new york city is being ravaged. https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...o+japan+from+c

they take a cluster based approach to the virus. Buisnesses that are not opened up here are opened in japan. Japanese culture requires that everyone follows the rules and I would assume almost everyone there wears a mask.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Co...-so-few-people

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Old 04-27-2020, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Denver and Boston
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Don't you think college students living away from home would be very likely to transit virus from asymptomatic transmission in dorms or group apartments or bars or any place else where they congregate? Maybe I don't understand that statement.
Yes they would be very likely to transmit to fellow students in their dorms. That would be a good thing, it would get us closer to herd immunity. College age people have close to zero chance of dying or being hospitalized by the virus. Bars and any other places of congregation are closed, so I do not understand your point on that.



A smart thing to do, which will never happen of course, would be to infect every college student living in a dorm (excepting those with high risk medical conditions) with the virus asap. In addition to getting us closer to herd immunity, it would provide a pool of blood donors for convalescent plasma treatments.
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Old 04-27-2020, 05:25 AM
 
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Ok, lets do this then with car accidents, cancer, the flu, pneumonia, and every other virus or disease. Nobody cared or paid attention when 80,000 plus Americans died in 2017-2018 of the flu.
Your State, Massachusetts, is a living horror show. Do nothing then.
Sit back and wait for the next Chinese virus to come out of China that will make coronavirus times look like the good old days.
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Old 04-27-2020, 06:32 AM
 
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Yes they would be very likely to transmit to fellow students in their dorms. That would be a good thing, it would get us closer to herd immunity. College age people have close to zero chance of dying or being hospitalized by the virus. Bars and any other places of congregation are closed, so I do not understand your point on that.



A smart thing to do, which will never happen of course, would be to infect every college student living in a dorm (excepting those with high risk medical conditions) with the virus asap. In addition to getting us closer to herd immunity, it would provide a pool of blood donors for convalescent plasma treatments.

Yeah, but they'd kill off the professors. It's not the teens and 20-somethings. It's who they infect while they're walking around with it.
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Old 04-27-2020, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Ok, lets do this then with car accidents, cancer, the flu, pneumonia, and every other virus or disease. Nobody cared or paid attention when 80,000 plus Americans died in 2017-2018 of the flu.
I wish people would just stop it with this totally flawed analogy. How many of the conditions you have listed are contagious, with no vaccine, no known cure, and very serious complications in 20+% of the cases?
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Old 04-27-2020, 06:56 AM
 
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its the media pushing that this virus is so dangerous. I dont believe we should of shut down buisnesses with this virus we dont know how bad the economy will get. If it tanks ill be rubbing it in everybodys face. So many countries locking everything down. Oh when people sober up when we have a depression ill tell them i told you so. Its called herd mentallity where everyone falls in line and accepts what the goverment tells them . We could of practiced social distancing without hurting the economy. . What if we did it all for nothing? Its too early to tell. We have to wait a year and see the numbers of every country. We might only be delaying deaths.
When we open buisness up again we will get waves . Sweden is keeping buisness open and yes their numbers are higher but lets come back in a year and see what the real numbers are for each country. They claim they will reach herd immunity if it exists but we will see and i will be watching their numbers. Even though buisnesses are open people are not going out as much even though they have the freedom to do so in sweden.

i-t-a-l-y.
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