09-13-2021, 03:24 PM
Location: The State Line
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There’s a Bus Driver Shortage in the Commonwealth (Seriously)!
https://www.boston.com/news/schools/...p_featurestack
Desperate times call for desperate measures, I suppose.
09-13-2021, 03:31 PM
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GeoffD
So old fashioned conservatism is conspiracy theories and pseudoscience? That’s certainly an appropriate description of Newsmax. And your Stalin reference shows you have no knowledge of history. Most on this forum lean a bit European social Democrat. In Europe, that’s a conservative.
Anyone for vaccine passports are not only far to the left they do not stand for American principles of freedom. It's something out of a dystopian movie. Democrats were far more conservative in the 1960's but now they are nothing like they were during that era. The country has gone more to the left.
09-13-2021, 03:32 PM
Location: Westwood, MA
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Ridiculous! This is what you use the Nat Guard for?
In retrospect, it seems a lot more productive than
some of the things we used the National Guard for.
09-13-2021, 04:21 PM
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I agree it does seem ridiculous. I know kids need to get to school but seems crazy there wasn't anything else that could be done. Getting bus drivers didn't seem to be an issue in the past but if this is going to become a thing school systems will be in trouble. It isn't sustainable to use the national guard for something like this. My kids take the bus so I guess getting drivers wasn't an issue here. If it was I'd be happy to drive them myself and pick them up.
Unemployment benefits will end soon I can't see this going on for long. Maybe people are more picky about which job they take. In Chicago they required vaccination for all bus drivers that led to thier shortage.
Every place I walk into is hiring I have never seen anything like it. Some don't want to wear a mask or take a vaccine but I doubt that's the only reasons.
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09-13-2021, 05:25 PM
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Anyone for vaccine passports are not only far to the left they do not stand for American principles of freedom. It's something out of a dystopian movie. Democrats were far more conservative in the 1960's but now they are nothing like they were during that era. The country has gone more to the left.
Have read nearly all your posts on this. You haven't yet advanced a cogent argument for
why it's OK for states including MA to have vaccine mandates for, like 10 diseases, but not Covid . Mississippi doesn't even have exemptions for religious beliefs!
09-13-2021, 05:40 PM
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Have read nearly all your posts on this. You haven't yet advanced a cogent argument for why it's OK for states including MA to have vaccine mandates for, like 10 diseases, but not Covid . Mississippi doesn't even have exemptions for religious beliefs!
There should not be any mandates for any vaccine only recommendations let the parents decide. Those older vaccines worked. If you took the small pox vaccine you could not get smallpox. With the covid vaccine you can still get covid or pass it to someone else. It makes more sense for older Americans to get the vaccine because they are at risk versus teens who have no risk and have a chance of heart problems.
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09-13-2021, 06:50 PM
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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There should not be any mandates for any vaccine only recommendations let the parents decide. Those older vaccines worked. If you took the small pox vaccine you could not get smallpox. With the covid vaccine you can still get covid or pass it to someone else. It makes more sense for older Americans to get the vaccine because they are at risk versus teens who have no risk and have a chance of heart problems.
But that is
not the reality. Point is--mandates do exist and have been in place for decades.
As for your scenario? Guess what: if everyone got vaxxed against Covid, pretty soon there would be nothing to pass on to anyone. Kind of what we've got now with measles, polio, and all those other diseases. Funny how that works
09-13-2021, 06:50 PM
Location: Boston, MA
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Anyone for vaccine passports are not only far to the left they do not stand for American principles of freedom. It's something out of a dystopian movie. Democrats were far more conservative in the 1960's but now they are nothing like they were during that era. The country has gone more to the left.
A lot of folks here including in this forum make that argument that vaccine passports do not stand for American principles of freedom but what do we know how the Founding Fathers would have felt about a vaccine mandate. Washington, Adams and Jefferson did not have to face a virus like this. They could have just as well declared a vaccine mandate legitimate because it was not mandated by the King but by individuals elected to represent and protect the people. I mean think about it, getting the vaccine could be as American as arming oneself in the time of necessity, only this time arming oneself with an antivirus rather than a firearm. Americans were long taught to swear to protect each other so I don't see how different mandating that every loyal and patriotic citizen and resident get a vaccine is any different. I actually think this mandate is somewhat rightist, not leftist.
09-13-2021, 07:36 PM
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There should not be any mandates for any vaccine only recommendations let the parents decide. Those older vaccines worked. If you took the small pox vaccine you could not get smallpox. With the covid vaccine you can still get covid or pass it to someone else. It makes more sense for older Americans to get the vaccine because they are at risk versus teens who have no risk and have a chance of heart problems.
The older vaccines "worked" because they
were mandated. And they didn't work without a small number of persons suffering from Vaccine injury. There exists a Smallpox Vaccine Injury Compensation Program if you search around for it. Smallpox is gone, and unfortunately a small number of persons suffered side effects.
It's always been known that vaccines may not prevent illness outright but would lessen the severity if you do in fact catch the illness you are being vaccinated against. Less symptoms, less viral load, shorter duration. Even the flu vaccine was never touted as being 100% effective but was always assumed to reduce the severity. My wife came down with a very bad case of the flu about 4-5 years ago even after being vaccinated. (bad enough that I never want to experience that myself so i started getting the flu vaccine for the first time after that) The chickenpox and shingles vaccines are other vaccines that have been known to have breakthrough cases.
Nothing we are seeing with the Covid vaccine should be surprising. There is precedent for breakthrough cases, and there is precedent for reduced or symptomatic cases still allowing for the aliment to be spread. There is precedent for a small number of vaccine related injury. We are looking at over 4 billion covid vaccine shots that have been administered to date and over a year of data collection.
There is even evidence of extreme asymptomatic transmission with coronaviruses. This study in 2012 shows that the number of asymptomatic cases of the common cold outnumber symptomatic cases 4 to 1. I wouldn't be surprised if Covid behaves the same way.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0619225719.htm
I've always considered myself to be right-of-center/libertarian leaning, and if you saw my postings prior to 2020 I would definitely sound this way, but when it comes to Covid i can't get on board with that train of thought due to personal experience. I stopped hanging around with certain peers or stopped participating in certain boards/forums because of the "If you aren't with us you are against us" mentality. Being a critical thinker and coming to your own conclusion only prevents you from being labeled a sheep if that conclusion is the opposite of what a democrat tells you. Hell, I did testing on masks for the gov't and found myself being ridiculed because my data aligned with the "liberal agenda to control people". Outside of a few C-D posts, i've just checked out politically. I don't even want to think about the 2024 election.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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