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This is incredible. One thing Greenville could use is more breakfast places. This company is spreading like crazy over NC. I've been to a couple of them here in the triangle and the food is outstanding. Even for a chain, this place is awesome. Never had anything bad there.
With the way NC changed the annexation laws, we are seeing much more of this than in the past. Cities know in order to grow they have to accept the projects that want to be in the City or they will completely miss out on the long term growth.
With this project, its not as simple as it seems...you have Charles Blvd widening to Hollywood Crossroads, where one of your main High Schools is located. Worthington Rd and Mills Rd are obsolete two lane roads that serve the High School and Hope Middle School. Saying its five miles outside of town is not really accurate. The Greenville city limits could easily extend to Conley at some point in the next 10 years via development. This project is just down the road from that.
If the folks in that area want to blame someone, start withe County school board building Hope Middle School on Mills Rd. The area it serves is all north toward the city. It should have been built 3 miles closer to Greenville. That school has contributed to a significant traffic increase on Mills Rd.
With the way NC changed the annexation laws, we are seeing much more of this than in the past. Cities know in order to grow they have to accept the projects that want to be in the City or they will completely miss out on the long term growth.
With this project, its not as simple as it seems...you have Charles Blvd widening to Hollywood Crossroads, where one of your main High Schools is located. Worthington Rd and Mills Rd are obsolete two lane roads that serve the High School and Hope Middle School. Saying its five miles outside of town is not really accurate. The Greenville city limits could easily extend to Conley at some point in the next 10 years via development. This project is just down the road from that.
If the folks in that area want to blame someone, start withe County school board building Hope Middle School on Mills Rd. The area it serves is all north toward the city. It should have been built 3 miles closer to Greenville. That school has contributed to a significant traffic increase on Mills Rd.
“Long-term growth” needs to be completely rethought. Frankly, it’s short-term thinking when we’re expanding our city further out instead of adding density. In the past, I might have agreed with such a subdivision being built, but with the status of our planet looking increasingly grim, we have rethink growth overall. That doesn’t mean halting construction of subdivisions entirely, but we need to far more selective of the subdivisions we do approve and stick to Horizons 2026!
With the way NC changed the annexation laws, we are seeing much more of this than in the past. Cities know in order to grow they have to accept the projects that want to be in the City or they will completely miss out on the long term growth.
With this project, its not as simple as it seems...you have Charles Blvd widening to Hollywood Crossroads, where one of your main High Schools is located. Worthington Rd and Mills Rd are obsolete two lane roads that serve the High School and Hope Middle School. Saying its five miles outside of town is not really accurate. The Greenville city limits could easily extend to Conley at some point in the next 10 years via development. This project is just down the road from that.
If the folks in that area want to blame someone, start withe County school board building Hope Middle School on Mills Rd. The area it serves is all north toward the city. It should have been built 3 miles closer to Greenville. That school has contributed to a significant traffic increase on Mills Rd.
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Originally Posted by BMORE
“Long-term growth” needs to be completely rethought. Frankly, it’s short-term thinkingwhen we’re expanding our city further out instead of adding density. In the past, I might have agreed with such a subdivision being built, but with the status of our planet looking increasingly grim, we have rethink growth overall. That doesn’t mean halting construction of subdivisions entirely, but we need to far more selective of the subdivisions we do approve and stick to Horizons 2026!
Great thoughts and both valid arguments that illustrate the difficulty leaders/cities have in decision making. I'm not privy to the geographic footprint of Greenville. I wonder how it compares to other cities we aspire too. I don't know a lot more than I know, but IMO density is a the future especially for smaller urban areas to prevent the degradation of existing neighborhoods. There is certainly more to it than just density and HP91 mentioned. I do not know the value of having schools in the city limits vs out...
That being said, making a plan and sticking to the plan should make these decisions easier.
The school system just buys whatever land they can get for cheap. Hope Middle is not the first out-of-the-way school. Check out Northwest Elementary.
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