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What brought you to your conclusion you hate Yeshua/Jesus?
I don't believe you hate him.
If I appear not to Hate Him, then it is Him in me. I have to give Him the credit for EVERYTHING Good that I do or that is seen or acknowledged in me.
I can't think of a single thing that brought me to the conclusion but that just study over time of God's Word has brought me to this understanding - and when I brought me - it was Him bringing me to this understanding (I know many will disagree but just saying that is how I see it.).
Thank you for your reply and explaination trettep, I am not sure I agree yet, but believe if we had been there when Jesus was crucified we would possibly have said crucify.
The good part for all of us, Jesus says Father forgive them they know not what they do.
Thank you for your reply and explaination trettep, I am not sure I agree yet, but believe if we had been there when Jesus was crucified we would possibly have said crucify.
The good part for all of us, Jesus says Father forgive them they know not what they do.
Hi Brother, just think about the fact that it was destined that we kill the passover lamb. Give it some thought and let me know what you think. Peace and love brother.
You said "A will", and I said "Our will". The difference is ownership. Our will is evil always.
Paul
A will is a will, does not matter who owns it, Jesus had His own will also, so if the will is the carnal mind Jesus had a carnal mind.
I don't no Paul but it seems to me you see the carnal mind as everything in man, first its mans mind, than mans flesh and now mans will, and if we start to speak of the heart it will be mans heart, mans soul and mans spirit. You might as well just come right out and say it, MAN IS SATAN.
A will is a will, does not matter who owns it, Jesus had His own will also, so if the will is the carnal mind Jesus had a carnal mind.
I don't no Paul but it seems to me you see the carnal mind as everything in man, first its mans mind, than mans flesh and now mans will, and if we start to speak of the heart it will be mans heart, mans soul and mans spirit. You might as well just come right out and say it, MAN IS SATAN.
The will of a natural man is to cater to the flesh. Satan is spirit but OF man. Man himself is not Satan.
So what is it that we can learn from that brother?
You know my stance on it.
Pneuma i know there is balance to it somewhere . I just can't bring myself to say with enough conviction it's one or the other.
I don't want to be flippant about it and say it means this when there seems(it only seems to be) to be a conflict with it.
Jesus said learn of me for i am meek and humble in heart. He also said i am the way, reality and the life , He also said He's the good shepherd.
I do not think we can intrepet the I AM's any other way in which it is written of Him, maybe we are misinterpreting the OT in the light that the word tells us Jesus is the exact representation of His being
My opinion (and that's all it is) is to have the same attitude as Jesus , if we act out how we perceive(perceiving through our carnal minds) God through the OT we are building on sinking sand.
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