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Each wind turbine contains up to 1600 gallons of transformer oil, 150 gallons of lubrication oil, diesel fuel, and SF6 (the most potent greenhouse gas known).
There are thousands of platforms in the Gulf, and no evidence of any impact on whales and dolphins, except when there's an oil spill, which is much more likely than any accidents involving wind turbines. Installing those platforms involved hammering in piles, laying flow lines, drilling wells, and a bunch of other related activities.
Who cares if wind turbines are visible from the beach? On my list of annoying things, that's way down towards the bottom.
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The downsides to wind turbines and wind power as an energy source are never discussed. People are shocked when they understand the true cost of wind development. Wind power is heavily marketed as beneficial, but that is not the whole story.
Agreed. and signed.
If they insist it's NOT the farms, then halt them for 6 months and see if the deaths continue. easy solution.
Agreed. There is a bill that's been introduced in the NJ Legislature, NJ AR-181 which calls for a moratorium on sonar testing and surveying in response to the recent and unprecedented deaths of whales and dolphins on our coast.
Gov. Murphy has so far resisted pressure to halt the survey mapping.
In fact he has signed an Executive Order #307 expanding off shore wind development by 50% and directing the NJ Board of Utilities to further study the feasibility of increasing NJ's green energy targets.
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This petition will be hand delivered in Trenton on March 30th, 2023.
The downsides to wind turbines and wind power as an energy source are never discussed. People are shocked when they understand the true cost of wind development. Wind power is heavily marketed as beneficial, but that is not the whole story.
If the electricity isn't going to be generated by wind, how will it be generated, since New Jersey stopped the construction of a new natural gas pipeline? Is NJ going to insist that the impacts of electricity generation be borne by other states?
It appears the people of New Jersey are all a bunch of NIMBYs that want modern life without the side effects that modern life requires.
I wonder where to find factual information from people who actually care about marine life and not their pet politics. I do not for one minute believe that is the case with the regulars here whose very religion and reason for living (and probably some compensation) is to cast aspersion on a political party.
Let's take a minute to show some genuine concern for these poor creatures and figure out what is going on.
If the electricity isn't going to be generated by wind, how will it be generated, since New Jersey stopped the construction of a new natural gas pipeline? Is NJ going to insist that the impacts of electricity generation be borne by other states?
It appears the people of New Jersey are all a bunch of NIMBYs that want modern life without the side effects that modern life requires.
The issue is why are marine mammals washing up dead on the beach while extensive sonic sonar surveys are being conducted for the first time ever.
Why has a foreign wind turbine developer, Orsted, working in partnership with the federal government been given permission to harass and potentially harm 17 species of our marine life?
Is this the acceptable way to clean energy?
Should we sacrifice the lives our our Marine mammals and the health of our ocean ecosystems in exchange for wind power? Are dead whales and dolphins acceptable "side effects"?
Was it wise to hastily approve these gigantic turbines before knowing what the full impact will be on ocean life, our communities, fisheries, and tourism?
Why wasn't a small pilot program set up first so that impacts may be properly studied?
Why has Gov refused to pause the project?
Did the federal and state government engage the public in a truthful discussion of what the impacts would be? Were there townhalls or an effort to inform and educate the public? Did they mention the Incidental Take Authorizations? The answer is no. The public at large didn't know about the wind turbine projects until the dead whales started washing up.
As for the MINBY claim you mentioned, Gov Murphy signed a bill that denied local municipalities their traditional control over where wind power cables come ashore. The local communities have been struck from the conversation by law. The health of the NJ ocean impacts us all. This is not just an issue for people who live at the shore.
We don't currently have wind turbines in New Jersey and we have plenty of energy.
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The issue is why are marine mammals washing up dead on the beach while extensive sonic sonar surveys are being conducted for the first time ever.
Why has a foreign wind turbine developer, Orsted, working in partnership with the federal government been given permission to harass and potentially harm 17 species of our marine life?
Is this the acceptable way to clean energy?
Should we sacrifice the lives our our Marine mammals and the health of our ocean ecosystems in exchange for wind power? Are dead whales and dolphins acceptable "side effects"?
Was it wise to hastily approve these gigantic turbines before knowing what the full impact will be on ocean life, our communities, fisheries, and tourism?
Why wasn't a small pilot program set up first so that impacts may be properly studied?
Why has Gov refused to pause the project?
Did the federal and state government engage the public in a truthful discussion of what the impacts would be? Were there townhalls or an effort to inform and educate the public? Did they mention the Incidental Take Authorizations? The answer is no. The public at large didn't know about the wind turbine projects until the dead whales started washing up.
As for the MINBY claim you mentioned, Gov Murphy signed a bill that denied local municipalities their traditional control over where wind power cables come ashore. The local communities have been struck from the conversation by law. The health of the NJ ocean impacts us all. This is not just an issue for people who live at the shore.
We don't currently have wind turbines in New Jersey and we have plenty of energy.
Humpback and right whales have been dying in unusual numbers since 2017. Here's 2 pages from NOAA with the facts:
Seismic surveys have been conducted in the Gulf of Mexico since the late 1940's with no long term negative effects on marine life. Those surveys use far more energy that the surveys done for wind turbine construction. Naval sonar is a bigger threat to marine life than surveys. Keep in mind that once the construction is complete, the surveys will end.
Orsted is involved because they submitted the best proposal. They are the larges offshore wind company in the world. Orsted is a Danish company, and the Danes are very good at this wind thing.
NJ may have enough power now, but that's going to change as population grows and other sources reach the end of their useful life. And, not allowing gas pipelines to be built makes it impossible to build any new gas fired plants. Heck, without additional capacity, NJ may run out of natural gas.
It’s ok. Some sacrifices are required to drive agendas approved and promoted by elitists. They are bring us to energy independent from fossil fuel.
Of course this is a lie. They don’t tell you the cost of the raw materials. The damage they have cost to the environments and now to the ocean and its ecosystem. How is the end of life being handled? Are there just there rotten? Are they recyclable? Of course they can put our all these wonderful publications but none of this matter until the time come. In IT, the developers blame the users instead of their bad code. They say, the program runs fine in our environment.
Hey, let’s put the negatives and lie aside and be positive. It make many people feel good. And more importantly, a selected few even more powerful and wealthier.
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