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Old 03-28-2023, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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Germany has been into wind power for 20 years. They can't make it work without government subsidies.

Germans are souring on wind power. From "Wind Power is Collapsing in Germany"

"The Germans are finding out that there are many issues with wind farms that include noise pollution, wildlife and monument protection, military and radio conflicts, and NIMBY—not in my back yard—issues. These are on top of the economic fact that their current system is built upon government subsidies and mandates about which the public seems to be growing weary. German residential consumers pay about three times what U.S. residential consumers do for electricity."

This is the reality of wind power. If the German's can''t make it work, no one can.
Totally agree!
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Old 03-28-2023, 10:47 AM
 
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The feds strive everyday to choke off fossil fuel production through regulations.

Do you know why the banks won't lend fossil fuel companies money?

Because federal regulators in the current administration are making it harder for banks to lend to fossil fuel providers. They have politicized the allocation of capital.

Through coercive regulations the gov uses it's power push their climate agenda and punish industries they don't like.

This makes sense when you understand that the feds are in partnership with wind developers. They are use regulations to stamp out their competition.

The frantic push into green energy is all about the huge amounts of GREEN CASH flowing from the government into the pockets of wind developers and back into political coffers.

The benefits of wind are sheer propaganda. A slick marketing campaign flying under the cover of saving the environment. It's very cynical.
Why won't banks lend to small oil and gas companies? Because banks do not lend to deadbeats who can't pay their loans. That's it. Even the venture capital people are far more picky than they were before the pandemic and lost a ton of money invested in companies that went bankrupt.
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Old 03-28-2023, 12:28 PM
 
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Porpoise just died in Ortley Beach, NJ today.
What does that have to do with a wind turbine?
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Old 03-28-2023, 12:30 PM
 
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Why won't banks lend to small oil and gas companies? Because banks do not lend to deadbeats who can't pay their loans. That's it. Even the venture capital people are far more picky than they were before the pandemic and lost a ton of money invested in companies that went bankrupt.
Yet they will lend to trump who doesn't pay his loans back and is a billionaire. Think about that.
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Old 03-28-2023, 02:21 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Why won't banks lend to small oil and gas companies? Because banks do not lend to deadbeats who can't pay their loans. That's it. Even the venture capital people are far more picky than they were before the pandemic and lost a ton of money invested in companies that went bankrupt.
No bank wants to make a bad loan.

But that's not the issue here. The current Admin has made it's climate agenda central to everything it does. All leading financial agencies are headed by progressive regulators who seek to push the administration's climate agenda forward including discouraging investment in oil and gas.

It's not a secret goal. Go to whitehouse.gov and read it yourself. It's an all out push to achieve a target of a net-zero emissions economy by no later than 2050.

Good article here too. Regulators press banks to step up scrutiny of fossil fuel financing.

They don't care if a few thousand marine mammals are killed by sonar surveys. They don't care if the New Jersey shore is environmentally and economically damaged by industrializing the ocean.
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Old 03-28-2023, 02:34 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Porpoise just died in Ortley Beach, NJ today.
Photo and details at link.

Murphy still claiming no connection to surveys.

So far we know about 13 whales, 15 dolphins 2 porpoises since December in NJ. More if you add NY.

How many were harmed by Orsted sonar surveys and didn't wash up on the beach?
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Old 03-28-2023, 05:39 PM
 
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Photo and details at link.

Murphy still claiming no connection to surveys.

So far we know about 13 whales, 15 dolphins 2 porpoises since December in NJ. More if you add NY.

How many were harmed by Orsted sonar surveys and didn't wash up on the beach?
Where's the proof that the Orsted surveys harmed any sea life? Those types of surveys are done all the time, all over the world.
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Old 03-28-2023, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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A stray cat just died in Kearny, NJ today. Very sad.
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Old 03-28-2023, 10:16 PM
 
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Where's the proof that the Orsted surveys harmed any sea life? Those types of surveys are done all the time, all over the world.
Visit 5 or 6 pages forward. They knew there was going to be catastrophic death for whales, dolphins, seals and porpoises. Biden appointed his NOAA official, who then authorized the permits to kill them off on the coast of NJ. There are even "takes" on how many can die, which depending on the species is into the thousands. They even offered to kill off endangered species, I believe it was the North Atlantic Right Whale which only has 70 females left in the world, they offered to sacrifice 14 of them for the project.

At this point it is known and evident to most now what happened. There's a huge rally in Trenton on Thursday morning about this, and a group is handing a petition (there a few of them going around) to the Governor of over 500,000 NJ residents signatures to end the project.

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Old 03-28-2023, 10:23 PM
 
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Photo and details at link.

Murphy still claiming no connection to surveys.

So far we know about 13 whales, 15 dolphins 2 porpoises since December in NJ. More if you add NY.

How many were harmed by Orsted sonar surveys and didn't wash up on the beach?
A Sperm whale also washed up in Ocean City, NJ on Saturday. They are saying it died in January.

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