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I've never proselytized in public by atheists (or Buddhists).
Well Jews do not actively try to convert anyone either?
And some more legalistic Christian groups are more aggressive in their recruitment techniques than others.
I’ve had atheists say to me things like “if you’ve got nothing else in your life, then you turn to God or religion”.
This is an equally false assumption made by some atheists, to try to dismiss religion. (and implicit attempts at de-conversion)
Well Jews do not actively try to convert anyone either?
And some more legalistic Christian groups are more aggressive in their recruitment techniques than others.
I’ve had atheists say to me things like “if you’ve got nothing else in your life, then you turn to God or religion”.
This is an equally false assumption made by some atheists, to try to dismiss religion. (and implicit attempts at de-conversion)
I don't know whether Jews proselytize or not. That's why I didn't comment on it.
Oh...so christians get to say their mind, but atheists don't? That's christian privilege at work.
I don't know whether Jews proselytize or not. That's why I didn't comment on it.
Oh...so christians get to say their mind, but atheists don't? That's christian privilege at work.
Oh, that's a crock, phet. Christians "speak their mind" by talking about Jesus. Some atheists "speak their minds" by verbally attacking Christians and/or insulting them for speaking their minds, and talking about Jesus.
Oh, that's a crock, phet. Christians "speak their mind" by talking about Jesus. Some atheists "speak their minds" by verbally attacking Christians and/or insulting them for speaking their minds, and talking about Jesus.
Yes, that's true...but it seems as if many of our christian posters here don't think we should be able to do so.
Oh, that's a crock, phet. Christians "speak their mind" by talking about Jesus. Some atheists "speak their minds" by verbally attacking Christians and/or insulting them for speaking their minds, and talking about Jesus.
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Yes, that's true...but it seems as if many of our christian posters here don't think we should be able to do so.
Don't think that atheists should be able to do WHAT? Verbally attack a Christian for thinking like a Christian thinks?
I came here several years ago, and I posted on a thread because I thought that I had something of value to contribute to that thread.
I was met with hostility from atheists, even though, my post wasn't hostile at all. I was talking about facts regarding the languages of the bible, and how (to paraphrase) we couldn't simply look at the English version, and take it to be literal.
From atheists, I got the whole, "Well, Mink, you're just STUPID if you think that!" I mean seriously, phet...what's with the insults?
It's fine to want to speak your mind, but does that include insulting others who speak theirs?
Don't think that atheists should be able to do WHAT? Verbally attack a Christian for thinking like a Christian thinks?
I came here several years ago, and I posted on a thread because I thought that I had something of value to contribute to that thread.
I was met with hostility from atheists, even though, my post wasn't hostile at all. I was talking about facts regarding the languages of the bible, and how (to paraphrase) we couldn't simply look at the English version, and take it to be literal.
From atheists, I got the whole, "Well, Mink, you're just STUPID if you think that!" I mean seriously, phet...what's with the insults?
It's fine to want to speak your mind, but does that include insulting others who speak theirs?
Christians need to stop being such weak sisters nowadays. Every time that someone disagrees, even vehemently, with your religious viewpoint it seems disingenuous for you folks to be crying about being attacked. Do you come on a forum expecting everyone to simply agree with your religious viewpoint? If you do, then you don't understand open forums. As Harry Truman put it: "If you can't the heat, stay out of the kitchen". When I was a teacher and principal, every time someone criticized public education I didn't whine about being attacked. I think you ought to do some reading about the history of christianity if you want see attacking.
It is interesting. Because of all those things it's just Jesus that keeps you from getting in to trouble with sex, drugs and rock and roll. Which is mainly what Jesus is for. To help us feel good about behaving in an orderly social manner. Well, that and the eternal life deal.
But none of that "changed my life" stuff really tells us if the Judeo- Christian version of all this is true. It's not evidence of anything except that the person has changed their thoughts or at least their behaviors.
And none of the apologetics surrounding Jesus means anything.
The only real proof that it is true is if Jesus returns like he said would. It is my belief based on my own observations that every one of us will die a natural death and that Jesus will not have returned. Thus passing the controversy to the succeeding generations. They will wrestle with it and pass it on to their succeeding generations.
It is my hope that Christianity will slowly evolve back to Jesus social message as opposed to emphasis on blood sacrifice for sins. And that the return of Jesus will go on the back burner sort of like how the "imminent coming" of the Messiah has occurred in the Jewish faith.
The science says that there is no supernatural dimension. We die and then we are like what we were a million years ago. I'd be the first to sign up if there was a scintilla of evidence of an afterlife. But there isn't any. Took me 60 years to come to my senses thanks to the Internet. Young people have the luxury of researching all this like I did but they are too busy just trying to survive in this pithole of a planet. Best they find out the reality of things now before they waste their life on an imaginary afterlife and get on with the only life they'll ever get right here.
Yes. I suppose it is some sort of placebo effect. Just for fun I googled "(Allah/Quran/Muhammed) will change/has changed (your/my) life" and got some results.
Testimonials of how various aspects of Islam changes lives. So certainly the "changed life" thing isn't exclusive to Christianity.
Every religion has it to some extent I suppose. But not to the neurotic degree Christianity does. I mean look at Ray Comfort if you want to size up someone who should be fitted for a straitjacket.
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