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Old 05-23-2020, 11:59 AM
 
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Yeah, true - so are people who are ruled by their emotion/frustration/anger.
Don't forget about the fear in resisting peer pressure...it's certainly easier to go with the current.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:59 AM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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As I see it, C.C old mate, it is quite clear -cut. But it is, in fact, untrue. The Real reason remains under wraps, other than a few Pink Bits peeking out.
You lost me; then again, I'm not in the habit of following. : )
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Seems antagonizing others is all you waste your time on here, but enough for me as I think it's time to sign off this forum again today. People like you always help me do that before I waste still more time as I now move on up or down stream from here. You be sure to keep flailing away. Can't blame you for sticking to what you are good at...
You pushing your "Ten Truths*" view of reality is a good example of "flailing away."

*Or more accurately...
"Ten reasons I constructed to help me to feel more comfortable about denying God existence"
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:03 PM
 
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Don't forget about the fear in resisting peer pressure...it's certainly easier to go with the current.
That would be the same thing as being ruled by emotion and 'jumping on bandwagons'.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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So, people born today, in your view are responsible for antiquity, though many are trying to do the best they understand how to do?
How are you so innocent?
I've impressed as I've gotten into watching more British television that FINALLY the Brits seem to have come to a realization that their brand of colonialism was, at the very least, ill-advised. I respect them for being able to look seriously at their past and to at least sometimes be able to say -- through film and television -- that they were wrong. Similarly, I was not a fan of Ronald Reagan. But I gave him a great deal of credit for apologizing -- on behalf of the nation -- for the internment of Japanese Americans.

It is admirable for a person, or for a group, to be able to say that they were wrong.

I was impressed when a very few American churches apologized for their historical stance on slavery.

So yes, I guess some people and some groups can hold themselves responsible for antiquity...not that it does much good for those who suffered through those times.

The problem, however, is sometimes not the organization but the individuals. This forum is primarily American-based. And since christians brag about being in the majority so often, I'm going to assume that most users of this overall forum would self-identify as christian. With that in mind, I suggest you go over and start reading the posts in the Politics & Other Controversies sub-forum or even the Great Debates sub-forum and see what the discussion is like when it comes to race. That's where you can see the mindset of a sizable minority of christians. They spend more time justifying racism than fighting racism. And racism, along with many of the other "isms" is not at all what I see in the teaching of Jesus.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:05 PM
 
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That would be the same thing as being ruled by emotion and 'jumping on bandwagons'.
Yes, and you too can be the change, stop jumping on .
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:10 PM
 
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I've impressed as I've gotten into watching more British television that FINALLY the Brits seem to have come to a realization that their brand of colonialism was, at the very least, ill-advised. I respect them for being able to look seriously at their past and to at least sometimes be able to say -- through film and television -- that they were wrong. Similarly, I was not a fan of Ronald Reagan. But I gave him a great deal of credit for apologizing -- on behalf of the nation -- for the internment of Japanese Americans.

It is admirable for a person, or for a group, to be able to say that they were wrong.

I was impressed when a very few American churches apologized for their historical stance on slavery.

So yes, I guess some people and some groups can hold themselves responsible for antiquity...not that it does much good for those who suffered through those times.

The problem, however, is sometimes not the organization but the individuals. This forum is primarily American-based. And since christians brag about being in the majority so often, I'm going to assume that most users of this overall forum would self-identify as christian. With that in mind, I suggest you go over and start reading the posts in the Politics & Other Controversies sub-forum or even the Great Debates sub-forum and see what the discussion is like when it comes to race. That's where you can see the mindset of a sizable minority of christians. They spend more time justifying racism than fighting racism. And racism, along with many of the other "isms" is not at all what I see in the teaching of Jesus.
You suggest to yourself. That's where your (mortal/carnal) thoughts lead to, not mine.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:14 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Yes, and you too can be the change, stop jumping on .
I'm not interested in being a 'change' relative to this forum, lol. I speak my own mind and don't follow a 'leader', gossip (or a god : )
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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I'm not interested in being a 'change' relative to this forum, lol. I speak my own mind and don't follow a 'leader', gossip (or a god : )
Well, at least understand whatever it is you think you are attempting to defend. The problem here is that some R/S concepts are pretty much off-limits, though some people continue to hold various notions...so either, they have to be banned or shunned into acceptance.
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Old 05-23-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: SF/Mill Valley
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Well, at least understand whatever it is you think you are attempting to defend. The problem here is that some R/S concepts are pretty much off-limits, though some people continue to hold various notions...so either, they have to be banned or shunned into acceptance.
I wasn't 'defending' anything; it's not up to me how the forum is moderated. I experienced it first-hand in terms of those who doubt my atheism because I accept (or don't care about) other people's views on the subject (but I certainly support their right to discuss them in a R&S forum, no less).

Because I don't believe in a god (yet have a love of learning), my perspective has somewhat of a philosophical slant - and people don't like (or understand) that, either.
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