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Considering that Project Mohole was taking place about 60 years ago, and we haven't made much progress on it since then, I doubt this discussion is very productive to determining whether atheism is a rejection or disbelief in an evil god.
Probably as productive as any other discussions so far...
At least this one is different! No less whacky but different!
Because, overall, it is not good for us. I have read, with some sadness, your excusing of a situation that we have to accept as being bad, because the universe does not care about our welfare; only we as a species, do.
Your social crusades are irrelevant to questions of origins. It's as though you purposely act as a hindrance to various discussions to lean towards your ready made framework.
You have all of the answers but you can't enjoy your accomplishments because somewhere, someone thinks differently.
I see you as far more the hindrance, proving yet again we're all free to believe whatever we want to. Also free to disagree with you, especially when there is so often the ongoing good reason(s) to do so!
Your obsession with atheism is like some jr. high school kid who's been accepted into some club he/she thought they'd would have never been allowed to join in a million years! I get it. It's very important to you but by the same token it's nothing burger for others...and that's okay too.
That from someone who thought I couldn't understand Post McCarthyite anti -liberalism unless I came for a stroll around Milwaukee.
You continue to prove my point and destroy the argument you were trying to make. You understand nothing about atheism, ad do not want to because you have a dislike of it (for political reasons, I'd bet my pension). And because you have no valid case and will not admit to the reason for your dislike of 'New' atheism, you have to resort to the sort of ad hom. attacks that we'd expect from the Arachs and the Bapfuns. What good company you are in Gabs. And it isn't even needed as I see you as one of us, really. You'd lose nothing by dropping this absurd anti -atheist view but gain, rather. I won't name any more names but I see one poster here, non long since, as violently critical of 'New' atheism as you seem to be. He seems to have got over that (as it was pointless anyway) and so can you.
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I see you as far more the hindrance, proving yet again we're all free to believe whatever we want to. Also free to disagree with you, especially when there is so often the ongoing good reason(s) to do so!
You are spouting off and trying to render aid without knowing what you are talking about. Some religious topics are heavily discouraged. The problem is the notions/questions remain.
People should always be allowed the opportunity to reason. Out of sight, out of mind is what's getting us in deeper doo.
I certainly agree with that. But does "opportunity to reason" mean to fill in the blanks with whatever comes to mind, no matter how far-fetched and unsupported, and then pass all that along as established fact? If so, I don't find that particularly... reasonable.
Reasoning backed by evidence (ironclad proof not required) and some semblance of likelihood (but no guarantees) is how we advance knowledge. Reasoning without any evidence or likelihood would better be called what it is... "letting your imagination run wild" or perhaps "the source of great works of fiction."
I certainly agree with that. But does "opportunity to reason" mean to fill in the blanks with whatever comes to mind, no matter how far-fetched and unsupported, and then pass all that along as established fact? If so, I don't find that particularly... reasonable.
Reasoning backed by evidence (ironclad proof not required) and some semblance of likelihood (but no guarantees) is how we advance knowledge. Reasoning without any evidence or likelihood would better be called what it is... "letting your imagination run wild" or perhaps "the source of great works of fiction."
It's not your bandwidth. Let the children reason it out.
Your obsession with atheism is like some jr. high school kid who's been accepted into some club he/she thought they'd would have never been allowed to join in a million years! I get it. It's very important to you, but by the same token it's a nothing burger for others...and that's okay too.
And your obsession with TRANSPONDER?
Not sure I can come up with a good analogy that helps make sense of the likes, but I'm thinking something like a stalker driven by some deep down underlying anger about something that happened during childhood...
You are spouting off and trying to render aid without knowing what you are talking about. Some religious topics are heavily discouraged. The problem is the notions/questions remain.
I'm also free to spout if if I like, and you inspire me to do so more than most!
Agonize not. I can well imagine that before i'd been around the block a couple of thousand times, I might have been shook up meself - just as i was on AN (pre the 2006 date tattooed on each eyelid) when the T -Rex soft tissue story broke. the hadrosaur 'mummy' wasn't a problem, but (supposedly) 60 million year old dinosaur meat rocked us back on our cloven hooves.
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Really? Everything in this world is based in science, physics, biology, chemistry,
quantum physics, math, calculus, geometry as far as I can see. Sow and reap - science.
Godfaith is not based on science, Miss H. At best, it malforms science to twist it into looking like it supports the faith.
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That from someone who thought I couldn't understand Post McCarthyite anti -liberalism unless I came for a stroll around Milwaukee. 
but I see one poster here, non long since, as violently critical of 'New' atheism as you seem to be. He seems to have got over that (as it was pointless anyway) and so can you.
) fell for it. 
the hadrosaur 'mummy' wasn't a problem, but (supposedly) 60 million year old dinosaur meat rocked us back on our cloven hooves.
