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a tract is a tract.
a link to a preacher is a link to a preacher
an exhortation to "hear the word" is evangelizing
flip side of the same coin
She asked about new atheism. I hooked her up to hear the words of one. I'm not trying to change her mind about anything. Those videos don't even really address atheism in as much as how it applies to spirituality. He's discussing his perspective and the problem he sees and not preaching. I watch videos people share for that very same reason. It helps me understand where people are coming from.
a tract is a tract.
a link to a preacher is a link to a preacher
an exhortation to "hear the word" is evangelizing
flip side of the same coin
links,videos, articles, scripture
nope.
i agree that a person needs to say it in their own words
evangelizing is distasteful and dismissed for all the same reasons
I guess you decided to add a little finger shaking to your post. It's there, people can add to their knowledge or as you say dismiss it. If you're just going to dismiss everything people say then you're just debating yourself. I interact with this evangelizes. I listen to their arguments. I can't formulate a meaningful response without knowing where the person is coming from.
Edit to add my own finger shaking: I recognize this tendency to assume you have access to the thoughts of another from my Watchtower training.
I guess you decided to add a little finger shaking to your post. It's there, people can add to their knowledge or as you say dismiss it. If you're just going to dismiss everything people say then you're just debating yourself. I interact with this evangelizes. I listen to their arguments. I can't formulate a meaningful response without knowing where the person is coming from.
i don't dismiss what people say.
i disregard tracts, links, videos, exhortations to "hear the word," scripture, and evangelizing
that for me is "talking at people" instead of having a discussion.
if a person can't say it in their own words then there is no conversation
just a lot of waving of tracts. and links. and videos. and scripture.
What do you mean out in the open? In a public setting where anyone has the right to speak just as freely as the person next to them?
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I won't be lip service to religion while it tries to manipulate people on the quiet and maintain its' privileges - it will push religion out of politics, education and the rest of society (not the family - can't help that, it will have to be the 'withering') and the rest of the west will take notice and be aware that it is irreligious.
i don't dismiss what people say.
i disregard tracts, links, videos, exhortations to "hear the word," scripture, and evangelizing
that for me is "talking at people" instead of having a discussion.
if a person can't say it in their own words there is no conversation
just a lot of waving of tracts. and links. and videos. and scripture.
Well, then that's the difference between us. I take it all in. Only then can I look for a point of contact between them and I. For instance, some people believe that a loving God drowned every sentient being on the planet because it was just. I believe that a loving God would not have done that because that is unjust in my mind. Two opposite opinions but our point of contact is that God is just.
Well, then that's the difference between us. I take it all in. Only then can I look for a point of contact between them and I. For instance, some people believe that a loving God drowned every sentient being on the planet because it was just. I believe that a loving God would not have done that because that is unjust in my mind. Two opposite opinions but our point of contact is that God is just.
the point of contact with a person for me is conversation with someone in their own words.
not hiding behind a tract, a video, a link, or scripture. it was an atheist here on CD who said if a person can't say it in their own words, then it indicates that they can't think for themself. if they hide behind a wall of text, a tract, a video, a link, scripture, "hear the word" "view the link" it is just seen as the behavior of evangelizing.
She asked about new atheism. I hooked her up to hear the words of one. I'm not trying to change her mind about anything. Those videos don't even really address atheism in as much as how it applies to spirituality. He's discussing his perspective and the problem he sees and not preaching. I watch videos people share for that very same reason. It helps me understand where people are coming from.
I am here to talk to people that are also here present on the forum. Not to watch a bunch of videos.
the point of contact with a person for me is conversation with someone in their own words.
not hiding behind a tract, a video, a link, or scripture. it was an atheist here on CD who said if a person can't say it in their own words, then it indicates that they can't think for themself.
You're you and I'm me. I post in way that makes sense to me. Following a link that resonates with someone is the same to me as them sharing their viewpoint. So it follows that me sharing links that resonate with me is the same.
He and I have had this discussion before, though, he may not remember. We do not share the same view points. I told him it is not possible. What I did not continue to say was that it is also inappropriate to even attempt to do it.
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