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The content is not balanced, I agree. The emotions behind the behaviors, I think, are equally balanced. And I don't think believing in a creator is the content under discussion. It is telling people they will go to hell or passing laws to work against them.
condemning someone to hell
is the same as condemning someone as mentally ill
the behavior and the mindset are the same.
that is what is being pointed out.
for a group or view that claims to be "rational" and "logical" my observation is those are glaringly lacking and exceedingly not demonstrated with the prevalence of condemnation, evangelizing, condescension, and strident in-your-face derision.
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 09-02-2019 at 10:11 AM..
condemning someone to hell
is the same as condemning someone as mentally ill
the behavior and the mindset are the same.
that is what is being pointed out.
for a group or view that claims to be "rational" and "logical" my observation is those are glaringly lacking and exceedingly not demonstrated by the prevalent condemnation, evangelizing, condescension, and strident in-your-face derision.
Mensaguy that was a poor choice of words. I am sorry I said it that way. New Atheism which is a movement within atheism seeks to eradicate religion entirely. You are correct they cannot take our beliefs, they are trying to remove religion and spirituality from being out in the open. That concerns the rights of any person of any faith or spiritual tradition.
It's also a poor choice of words when you resort of hyperbole.
condemning someone to hell
is the same as condemning someone as mentally ill
the behavior and the mindset are the same.
that is what is being pointed out.
for a group or view that claims to be "rational" and "logical" my observation is those are glaringly lacking and exceedingly not demonstrated with the prevalence of condemnation, evangelizing, condescension, and strident in-your-face derision.
Those two I would say balance each other out, an even-Steven sort of way. I don't participate in something like that, though, nor do I try to correct it. People might attempt to tell me I am mentally ill, but I don't believe it, nor do I try to fight it because I am not dealing with rational thinking. I am dealing with emotions.
Arach Angle used to try to point this out all the time and it seemed he was often ignored. I wonder where he is.
New atheists are like gays 20-some years ago. They're coming out after years of suppression and they're doing so "loud and proud."
I see the movement, if it can be characterized as such, as completely normal for any group whose views have been kept largely closeted by a disapproving, predominantly religious culture.
Although I'm prone to some thinking they consider "woo,"I welcome their focus on rationality versus religious indoctrination and superstition. They bring balance.
I think that's a very good way to phrase it.
In regard to the posting of videos, I have no problem with posting them, providing the poster doesn't get upset when people choose not to watch them. I'm not going to sit for hours watching videos, but every once in a while one may tempt me. The problem I have is when some people seem to have a knowledge base based only on You Tube.
Yes, she is a Christain. You'd know her sect of you bothered to try and understand anyone else. I've mentioned it countless times.
And it isn't the only one to "shun". The Amish shun; the denomination I was raised in (different from yours) disfellowships. My Mom is supposed to have nothing to do with me, but she chooses to ignore that rule.
Very true. They claim to be championing reason and logic, but they are motivated by emotional and volitional reasons. That's the key to understanding their behavior.
It's not really about rational arguments or discovering truth. For many, it would make no difference to them if the existence of God was somehow 'proven’ to them. They would still reject God, especially if it’s the God of the Bible.
Painful to imagine the hole they’re digging deeper with each new day.
If there were any proof of Bible God existing, we would all know about it by now.
As usual, you seem to have no grasp of your chosen subject matter.
If there were any proof of Bible God existing, we would all know about it by now.
As usual, you seem to have no grasp of your chosen subject matter.
I usually love your posts. This one...not so much. Man learns new things constantly. No telling what we might eventually learn. I personally have massive doubt that we'll ever learn that bible god exists, but I may be wrong.
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