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Old 09-27-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Come on now.

Christianity says that god made man in his image.
Hinduism portrays Ganesh as a weird looking elephant.
and calculus is filled with squiggly lines and weird doodles.
whether someone makes sense of something depends on their ability to understand the material.

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Old 09-27-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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so phet if this is where you are, that's OK.
by all means stay there. practice what you know.


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Old 09-27-2019, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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how do you explain the extreme difference in descriptions of Los Angeles from one person to another?

It's called "subjectivity."


That which is subjective exists in your mind only and nowhere outside your mind.


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that which their soul connects them to

And what good is that?


People being connected to god hasn't stopped people from committing crimes, so what value is there in being connected to god?
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:15 PM
 
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It's called "subjectivity." That which is subjective exists in your mind only and nowhere outside your mind.
Los Angeles exists. people describe it differently, based on their experience and interactions and impressions and ideas. People are different so they experience Los Angeles differently. Wildly varying descriptions do not change Los Angeles.

Creative Source exists. people describe it differently based on their experience and interactions and impressions and ideas. Wildly varying descriptions do not change Creative Source.
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Old 09-27-2019, 03:18 PM
 
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People being connected to god hasn't stopped people from committing crimes, so what value is there in being connected to god?
people commit crimes. so what value is there in being human.
that's the logic you are presenting.

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Old 09-27-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Tough being a persona non grata, but there are countless people I admire who were much more so than I can ever imagine myself to be, proven on the side of right over time. I ask anyone in this forum if they are inclined toward silence when asked by people of different mentality what the truth about such things might be. You clearly have no such hesitation...

Is the idea to get reps? Earn followers? Or is speaking the truth about something else entirely? Regardless how the truth might be received?

Also to learn something in the event we might be missing something and this is why I asked what is meant by a "materialist atheist." I don't consider myself a materialist, but I am an atheist, so I find the term a little puzzling if not off-putting. The suggestion that an atheist can't be sensitive or emotional or in tune with what beauty and marvel there is to explore and enjoy in life, for example, if this is what you mean? Including the great mysteries of life we all share. Your notion about being "materialist" in this regard is simply not correct at best and something of a brag that you are somehow better able to be in touch with reality any better than the rest of us.

Or maybe I'm just not following you too well. Hard to know...
You read an awful lot into my post that had as its ONLY intent to explain my view of the "supernatural." The persona non grata was in regard to the Forum's treatment of your "Truths" NOT you. Materialist atheists proclaim the default as No God until they see empirical evidence of it in our reductionist science. They dismiss the possibility or plausibility resident in legitimate extrapolations from known science into the gaps on the frontiers of science AS IF they were equivalent to entirely made-up, fantasies, or fabrications from whole cloth.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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The problem with atheists is that they are driven completely by their feelings and emotions. A fact that one of their own mods practically spelled out. But they refuse to acknowledge this fact.

It's also something that many former atheists turned Christians have acknowledged.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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and calculus is filled with squiggly lines and weird doodles.
whether someone makes sense of something depends on their ability to understand the material.
Isn't that clever. Of course, you didn't really respond to what was stated.
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Old 09-27-2019, 04:25 PM
 
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Isn't that clever. Of course, you didn't really respond to what was stated.
yes, i did. succinctly. clearly. and directly.

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Old 09-27-2019, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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yes, i did. succinctly. clearly. and directly.
why you see funny shapes.
No, you didn't. I asked you how you explain the difference between Ganesh and god (that god) supposedly created man in his image.

Of course, I've never seen a photo of you. Perhaps you look like Ganesh...but I doubt it.
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