Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,327 posts, read 54,358,694 times
Reputation: 40731
Advertisements
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest
Everyone in this country gets medical regardless to their ability to pay. In fact, an argument could be made thats why health care is so expensive.
So we should take pride in the fact the majority of personal bankruuptcies in the US are due to medical bills? And most of those people had medical insurance?
No, I am merely cutting through the BS you spew. Now, this discussion between us is done. BTW, I sorta think the President has already been called on this issue. He is aware and thinks it should be done on a federal level, and is MUCH smarter than you.
We'll see how far that goes.. really, I wish you well. Let me know when it will take place, maybe I'll be greedy and not pay my medical bills since you assure me that national health care is right around the corner....
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,327 posts, read 54,358,694 times
Reputation: 40731
Quote:
Originally Posted by irspow
Movin'on. Give me an address and I'll send you a Greyhound ticket to Mexico. They'll take you. The cost of a bus ticket is a bargain for one less socialist in the world.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but even if you send someone to Mexico, they're still in the world
So we should take pride in the fact the majority of personal bankruuptcies in the US are due to medical bills? And most of those people had medical insurance?
You'd need to provide me with a link because MOST people are not filing bankrupcy to avoid medical bills. Medical bills become a liability that gets put on a credit report. PERIOD. I have not ever heard of ONE individual loosing their home or other assets over medical bills. Please provide me with a source for this...
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,327 posts, read 54,358,694 times
Reputation: 40731
Quote:
Originally Posted by movin'on
And furthermore, what of the uninsurable at any price tag? You are aware, I presume, that the uninsured pay more for medical services than those who are insured, and I am referring to the fact that, when insured and due to contracted providers, the charges for the same medical services cost more for the uninsured.
A Harvard University study found the US average uninsured's cost to be 307% of insured cost. Once again NJ leads the way , in NJ the number is 456%
Last edited by burdell; 11-08-2008 at 04:47 PM..
Reason: spelling
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
68,327 posts, read 54,358,694 times
Reputation: 40731
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest
You'd need to provide me with a link because MOST people are not filing bankrupcy to avoid medical bills. Medical bills become a liability that gets put on a credit report. PERIOD. I have not ever heard of ONE individual loosing their home or other assets over medical bills. Please provide me with a source for this...
In many cases, illness forced breadwinners to take time off from work -- losing income and job-based health insurance precisely when families needed it most.
Even with a "universal health care" breadwinners would still take time off of work. Its not the BILLS causing the bankruptcies, its the lack of work, or will universal health care now pay for peoples mortgages and utility bills?
Find me ONE individual who has lost their home due to medical bills, and I might believe you, but I have never heard of a hospital suing and foreclosing on an individuals home and assets to pay a bill.
In many cases, illness forced breadwinners to take time off from work -- losing income and job-based health insurance precisely when families needed it most.
Even with a "universal health care" breadwinners would still take time off of work. Its not the BILLS causing the bankruptcies, its the lack of work, or will universal health care now pay for peoples mortgages and utility bills?
I think I am done being friends with someone where I live based on this issue alone. The night of the election this republican person I know said "why should everyone have health care if they don't work for it?"
This boggles my mind - the mean spiritedness of it all. I mean, how about we end the wars, stop spreading death and destruction, and use that money to take care of each other in this country?
Anyway, I just don't have time for someone with this thinking in my life. My mother is the same way. However, she is 87 and doesn't seem to get that tax dollars are paying for her health care, yet she begrudges others from having it. I can't very well toss her out of my life, but I abhor her thinking.
What is wrong with these people?
I am sure it won't be any loss to them...
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
, in NJ the number is 456% 
