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Old 01-15-2023, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Canada
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The point is that if she was Mary Johnson and then became Mary Smith, knowing that her father’s name Johnson doesn’t tell you much about her genealogy.

Whereas if you had John Smith, the name Smith should be tied to the Y-chromosome unless there was infidelity.

Of course knowing her maidan name will help you look up relatives but you can always the marriage certificate for that.
I never mentioned her father’s name or her maiden name because it was irrelevant to the point I was making. My post was about her identity as a woman, not how she fit in a family tree. The only reason I mentioned genealogy was to explain why I was reading old obituaries.

From a genealogical research point of view, if her father was living, he would usually be listed in the obituary and his surname would also be her maiden name. The surname listed for her living brothers in the obituary would also be her maiden name as well, unless they had a different father (i.e. mother married twice).
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Old 01-15-2023, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Some need to get into science more. Understand genes and the attributes associated with genes. Understand what the term like “mosaic” mean etc.
There is not one human identical to another human, not even twins. In the Bible, the one guy married to Leah, started crossing sheep to get a bigger herd than his father in law. Even then, they understood the variables. Sex is no different. There are variables.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:22 PM
 
Location: California
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I have no frame of reference for what it means to “feel like a woman.” I simply don’t know, perhaps because people on the spectrum aren’t really hung up on gender binarism.
Most people aren't, they are just living the life they were born with without thinking about it.
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Old 01-16-2023, 01:56 AM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Why don't you ask a Transgendered person instead of us who are not?
A bioman doesn't know what it feels like to be a woman either, even if they claim to identify as one. Its like asking a person w/body dysmorphia/anorexic what it feels like to be a morbidly obese person. They don't know in reality. They assume/guess.
Being a woman is more than boobs, makeup, heels, and dresses. This " identifying" stuff seems like gender blackface and minimizes/makes a mockery of women.
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Old 01-16-2023, 02:11 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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And how is it not considered offensive to reduce womanhood or manhood into a set of stereotypes?
Based on your previous posts, you actually dont believe what you just typed here as you are a traditionalist.

At best, all you mean is you dont like trans people.
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Old 01-16-2023, 04:20 AM
 
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Sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't.
Thanks, Almond Joy.
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Old 01-16-2023, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't understand transgenderism and non-binaryism and probably never will. Particularly, people who say they feel like a man on some days and like a woman on others. I accept them to some degree (I won't use weird/made-up pronouns and I'm against some other stuff), but would like for more research on the causes and why they are proliferating in under 25s (is it something in food or water, something to do with stress levels in pregnant women, etc?). There were openly homosexual students when I was in school, but not a single transgender or non-binary person (even someone that I could think of as a potential one). I've known a few transgender people as an adult and have met a few self-described non-binary people, and I always got the sense that I had to treat them with some "care" aside from a non-binary comedian. The comedian was the only one who I'd feel comfortable asking details about what's going on inside their head.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ndnbadults_01/

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Old 01-16-2023, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Some need to get into science more. Understand genes and the attributes associated with genes. Understand what the term like “mosaic” mean etc.
There is not one human identical to another human, not even twins. In the Bible, the one guy married to Leah, started crossing sheep to get a bigger herd than his father in law. Even then, they understood the variables. Sex is no different. There are variables.
What?? This is nonsense. Sheep are male or female, done. If they have mixed up chromosomes, we would never know bc we go by their outside anatomy (which will reliably predict behavior) and they don’t tell us “I feel like a ewe, not a ram.” I breed chickens and have done considerable research into their genetics but you’re never getting a transgender chicken. It’s not happening. They may exhibit different behaviors due to pecking order and that’s about it. Seriously don’t understand your point in this unless you’re just going off topic.

Identical twins share 100% of their DNA unless something goes wrong during meiosis, which is not common. The anomaly with identical twins is that the one embryo split into two. The chances of another major occurrence is slim to none.

Mosaics and chimeras are exceedingly rare, to the point where it’s not even worth discussion in this conversation. It is an accident, a genetic mistake, and unless you’re going to tell me that these folks are prone to transgenderism, please stop bringing this up in these threads. It is from left field.
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Old 01-16-2023, 06:16 AM
 
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Based on your previous posts, you actually dont believe what you just typed here as you are a traditionalist.

At best, all you mean is you dont like trans people.

I definitely don’t think being a women equates to conforming with a set of stereotypes. Your post is completely untrue.
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:38 AM
 
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I think a straight person with limited exposure to folks who identify as trans or non-binary can express their feelings on what this issue but - not sure it would be an accurate representation of how individuals with gender identity issues feel.

I wish we did have folks here to share their experiences that are different than most of us. But reality we don't...and haven't.
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