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Old 01-15-2023, 10:29 AM
 
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I worked with a trans for a number of years. I remember her saying to us
at work, "Did you see that hot, new guy we just hired?"

Was she homosexual as well as transgender?
If he identified as a she and was attracted to men, I think that person might have considered themselves to be straight.

I have no idea.

Sexuality and gender identity are two different things.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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It is a mental illness.
Being a woman? Gee, thanks.

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I like to think that we as humans are so very complex in our thought and emotion that trying to slap a label on us is pointless.
Best post of the thread so far.

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As a woman surely you can you explain what it feels like to be one? This question is for everyone. Not just trans or non binary. It’s for everyone.
That was not the question framed in your OP. But since you're backpedaling, I will, too.

I can't define what it means to be a woman. My body tells me I'm a woman, but what does that mean? Do I feel like I'm a woman because I like "womanly" pursuits such as cooking, gardening, home decor ... ? Nope, plenty of men like that stuff, too. Do I feel like a woman because I had to cram tampons into my body for 45 years? I could have lived without that experience and still considered myself a woman. Do I feel like a woman because I'm attracted to men? Plenty of men are attracted to men, and plenty of women are not.

Why can't I feel like a woman just because I do?

And why can't someone who is biologically not a woman feel like a woman just because they do?

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if i am holding a grapefruit and feel like it’s an orange, it’s still a grapefruit
How condescending. You're comparing human cognition and reasoning to plant matter?
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:40 AM
 
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Human Sexual identity is not a Mental illness and your response is one of the reason subjects like this can't be discussed in a civil manner.
Just because one doesn't understand it or agree with it doesn't make it a mental illness.
Many trans are only that because it is the current fad.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:40 AM
 
Location: My house
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Being a woman? Gee, thanks.


Best post of the thread so far.


That was not the question framed in your OP. But since you're backpedaling, I will, too.

I can't define what it means to be a woman. My body tells me I'm a woman, but what does that mean? Do I feel like I'm a woman because I like "womanly" pursuits such as cooking, gardening, home decor ... ? Nope, plenty of men like that stuff, too. Do I feel like a woman because I had to cram tampons into my body for 45 years? I could have lived without that experience and still considered myself a woman. Do I feel like a woman because I'm attracted to men? Plenty of men are attracted to men, and plenty of women are not.

Why can't I feel like a woman just because I do?

And why can't someone who is biologically not a woman feel like a woman just because they do?


How condescending. You're comparing human cognition and reasoning to plant matter?

Please, is there any analogy that could have been used which wouldn't have been deemed offensive?
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:41 AM
 
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What does it mean when someone says, "You make me feel like a natural woman"?
Is there a transgender distinction going on?
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:41 AM
 
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Being a woman? Gee, thanks.


Best post of the thread so far.


That was not the question framed in your OP. But since you're backpedaling, I will, too.

I can't define what it means to be a woman. My body tells me I'm a woman, but what does that mean? Do I feel like I'm a woman because I like "womanly" pursuits such as cooking, gardening, home decor ... ? Nope, plenty of men like that stuff, too. Do I feel like a woman because I had to cram tampons into my body for 45 years? I could have lived without that experience and still considered myself a woman. Do I feel like a woman because I'm attracted to men? Plenty of men are attracted to men, and plenty of women are not.

Why can't I feel like a woman just because I do?

And why can't someone who is biologically not a woman feel like a woman just because they do?


How condescending. You're comparing human cognition and reasoning to plant matter?
It sounds like your definition of being a women is based on biology when you talk about being a woman because that is what your body tells you in addition to having to use tampons because you have had to deal with periods, an experience that all women share and none of us enjoy.

You also talk about stereotypes which also don’t make us women since like you say, and I agree, many men like these things too. So what does it mean to you to be a woman and how can a male just say he is one and we are supposed to welcome him with open arms into our sports, bathrooms, etc? If we females can’t even define what it means to be a woman how can a male? Is it just a vibe or a feeling? Or are gender and biological sex actually the same thing?

When you’re out and about can you generally tell who is a woman and who is a man? If so, how?
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Why can't I feel like a woman just because I do?

And why can't someone who is biologically not a woman feel like a woman just because they do?

I physically and mentally "feel" 40 years old. i'm over 60. can i legally claim to be 40, on a life insurance application for example, because i "feel" 40? nope. to do so would be insurance fraud.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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The 10 year old next door was born blind. A tv channel was doing a special on kids with special needs.

The oatmeal for brains reporter asked the kid "what does it feel like to be blind"?

The way smarter kid said how do I know, I have no way to compare to sighted people.
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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I physically and mentally "feel" 40 years old. i'm over 60. can i legally claim to be 40, on a life insurance application for example, because i "feel" 40?

nope. to do so would be insurance fraud.
That’s a good example.

I also think of white people claiming to be black or Native American. Is that ok with those who say gender is just a feeling?

What about a grown man claiming that he is actually a little girl? Totally fine?
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Old 01-15-2023, 10:50 AM
 
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The 10 year old next door was born blind. A tv channel was doing a special on kids with special needs.

The oatmeal for brains reporter asked the kid "what does it feel like to be blind"?

The way smarter kid said how do I know, I have no way to compare to sighted people.
Good example.

I wonder if people would be offended or confused if a sighted person decided to identify as blind?
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