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Not being defensive it's just that the vast majority of people aren't transgendered to begin with especially on a forum like this. I've known trans people and they've said that they feel they were born into the wrong sex.
Their mind doesn't gel with the body they have.
whether you call it man/woman for us or male/female, the biology is relatively immutable. You can call it sex, you can try to shift to gender, the biology is relatively immutable.
So about what you - and they (haha) - say about "the mind doesn't gel" is rather meaningless, unless you're willing to admit it's a matter of abnormal mental function.
Estimated frequency of ovotestes is one in 83,000 births (0.0012%). (hermaphrodite, born with both)
if we go to "ambiguous genitalia" it goes up ...
"For their study, the researchers analyzed data on nearly 14,200 newborns. Of those, 18 had ambiguous genitalia. That’s a rate of 1.3 in 1,000 births" or 0.13%.
Even if a person "feels like" the other sex, that can only be determined by hormone and brain function. And even then, you'd still be approximately 95% biological sex and 5% other sex. So why would we cater to the 5%?
In what world would something that is 95% one thing and 5% another be primarily identified by the 5%?
And it goes back to the OP's question.
"I feel like a woman."
OK, what does that mean to you?
"Well, I'm more empathetic than all the guys I know." "I cry at movies more than men do." whatever it may be. Celebrate it as your superiority if you will.
I am married and heterosexual, and both of my children are women > 18 yrs old. I have no doubt that there are times that I "think like a woman" or even "feel like a woman" - I've been conditioned over 28 years to anticipate or understand women. But obviously, I am neither woman nor transgender.
This is an interview that took place on Dr. Phill where “experts” on gender identity as wells as two non binary folks were asked to define womanhood and they really struggled with the question. https://youtu.be/_HgOeTvxv00
If you don’t want to listen to the whole thing, you can start listening at the 14 minute mark to 16:30 to hear the question and answer on this from two non binary people and self proposed experts and again at the 18 minute mark to see the PHD expert discuss the same thing.
BTW, the expert does mention that a girl who doesn’t automatically want to vacuum may not have her gender identity and sexuality in alignment.
WOW.. that's it! If you automatically want to vacuum you're a woman!
Whocuddanode?
But seriously...
The statement 'I feel like a woman inside' was in fact the original basis for 'being transsexual' until it shifted to 'identifying as transgender' since transsexuals inconveniently understood the truth that no one can change sex. But transgenders, unlike their tethered-to-reality forbears, require everyone to affirm an essentially unprovable feeling as an empirically verifiable fact.
And frankly no woman that I've asked has ever, after serious thought, responded that they 'felt like a woman inside'.
And because individual consciousness is separate, distinct and unshared, or until we possess mind-melding, NO ONE CAN.
With nothing better, trans identified men MUST claim such ideations as substantive proof in order to enforce universal affirmation of their delusions, while changing language, law and social norms in the process. And simply preferring stereotypical sex role behaviors, the antithesis of feminism, will remain a foundational element of radical transgenderism.
Did we always have so many people with autism and it was not diagnosed?
Did we always have so many people with gender issues?
Do we just have too much Time and Freedom to be thinking about these issues?
There's a vast gulf between ostracize and normalize.
It's wrong to ostracize because of unique differences, we all know that now. The problem is the "make the unique feel completely normal because we'll claim all these other examples so they are normal".
Why not just say "normal is boring. it's like everybody else."
Human Sexual identity is not a Mental illness and your response is one of the reason subjects like this can't be discussed in a civil manner.
Just because one doesn't understand it or agree with it doesn't make it a mental illness.
on the one hand, you have told us you must ask the transgender what it is to "feel like a woman" ... and by your silence, you don't answer the other half of OP's question "What does it feel like to be a man".
You (all of y'all) can rationalize until the sun goes down, but you can't actually rationalize it without admitting it is almost always all a brain function/mental issue. For a very few, they have brain function that is more like the other gender. Again, that doesn't erase the other 95% of their being, yet you want the rest of us to ignore that 95%.
This is an interview that took place on Dr. Phill where “experts” on gender identity as wells as two non binary folks were asked to define womanhood and they really struggled with the question. https://youtu.be/_HgOeTvxv00
If you don’t want to listen to the whole thing, you can start listening at the 14 minute mark to 16:30 to hear the question and answer on this from two non binary people and self proposed experts and again at the 18 minute mark to see the PHD expert discuss the same thing.
BTW, the expert does mention that a girl who doesn’t automatically want to vacuum may not have her gender identity and sexuality in alignment.
Matt Walsh (the bearded guy with brown hair); 14 min to 16:30) would never claim to be a gender expert. But what he has done is expose the inanity or inability (depending on your viewpoint) of declared misgendered people to legitimize their position. The "PhD expert" has a PhD in ....communications.
"Nobody" cares if a man wants to cross-dress privately or publicly. What folks care about is the imposition of conditions that force them to provide equal status in gender-specific circumstances.
Anyone that doesn't believe that the majority of the vocal transgender advocates are simply mentally ill are free to google "TERF" or "should men/women be attracted to trans men/women?"
you will quickly see their "argument" fall apart when they declare that a gay woman that's not attracted to a transwoman or a gay man that's not attracted to a transman are "transphobic".
It's as simple as gay women like other gay WOMEN (female body parts and female emotional state) and gay men like other gay MEN (male body parts).
If you as a women can’t even attempt to explain what it feels like to be a woman, what does it even mean when someone tells you that they identify as one? Do you know that you are not a man? If so, how do you know?
I am in full agreement that outside things like clothing, makeup and activities, aka stereotypes have nothing to do with it.
can't rep again.
beyond this, it's just rationalization in their compartmentalized worlds.
men who think they are women believe because they have some stereotypical female personality traits or interests they "feel like a woman". nope. according to biology, chromosomes determine gender.
masculine and feminine personality traits/temperament/interests span the spectrum in both sexes. we've all know masculine women and feminine men!
if we weren't advanced enough scientifically to know hormone levels and DNA, then the transgender crowd would have a claim.
It sounds like your definition of being a women is based on biology when you talk about being a woman because that is what your body tells you in addition to having to use tampons because you have had to deal with periods, an experience that all women share and none of us enjoy.
You also talk about stereotypes which also don’t make us women since like you say, and I agree, many men like these things too. So what does it mean to you to be a woman and how can a male just say he is one and we are supposed to welcome him with open arms into our sports, bathrooms, etc? If we females can’t even define what it means to be a woman how can a male? Is it just a vibe or a feeling? Or are gender and biological sex actually the same thing?
When you’re out and about can you generally tell who is a woman and who is a man? If so, how?
What does it mean to “feel like” a woman? What does a woman “feel like” a man?
Don't trust your feelings.
Look down... it can tell you the facts.
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