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Why doesn't he end the war instead of dragging it out like he is now by going ahead and just drop a nuke a few months ago or early in the war to make the Ukrainians capitulate? Surely a nuke will end this conflict. The Ukrainians can't do anything about it.
Look at how the rest of the world is reacting to missile strikes on cities and power stations. Using a WMD would just leave dead people and contamination blowing into the Russia and make Russia a further outcast. I doubt it will cause surviving Ukrainians to get down on their knees but just dig in and kill more Russians who think they are marching in to occupy deadly space.
Look at how the rest of the world is reacting to missile strikes on cities and power stations. Using a WMD would just leave dead people and contamination blowing into the Russia and make Russia a further outcast. I doubt it will cause surviving Ukrainians to get down on their knees but just dig in and kill more Russians who think they are marching in to occupy deadly space.
If the Russians use nukes in Ukraine they will quickly find the battlefield move into Russia itself.
I have said it many times before. Putin is like a chihuahua barking up nuclear threats to scare people. He did it within 3 days of invading Ukraine. He hoped to scare off other countries from helping Ukraine. It didn't work. His bots have been working overtime to sell his nuclear scare.
Ukrainian officials have indicated that Ukrainian forces plan to continue offensive operations over the coming winter to capitalize on recent battlefield successes and prevent Russian forces from regaining the battlefield initiative. Spokesperson of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Eastern Group Serhii Cherevatyi stated on December 4 that frozen ground enables heavy wheeled and tracked vehicles to advance and that Ukrainian forces are preparing such vehicles for winter operations. Cherevatyi also stated that low-quality mobilized recruits and Wagner Group personnel recruited from Russian prisoners are unprepared for combat in the winter. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense (MoD) stated on November 20 that those who suggest the winter will pause hostilities “likely never sunbathed in January on the southern coast of Crimea,” suggesting that Ukrainian forces intend to continue counteroffensive operations over the coming winter that contribute toward the goal of retaking Crimea. Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Volodymyr Havrylov stated on November 18 that Ukrainian forces will continue to fight in the winter because any type of pause will allow Russian forces to reinforce their units and positions. Ukrainian officials’ prior statements on ongoing Ukrainian counteroffensive actions in Kherson Oblast are further evidence that these official statements on winter counteroffensive actions are indicators of continuing counteroffensive operations.
Before February, Russia was paying Ukraine to pipe gas through the country. Until 2009 80% of European gas was transited through Ukraine and transit fees were taken, and still today, the transit fees were running about 3 billion a year.
Russia would rather own all the gas and have all the customers.
Interesting point, but didn't the Nord Stream gas pipelines reduce the importance of the pipelines across Ukraine? Europe will in all likelihood never be reliant on Russian energy in the immediate future. Putin obviously thought he could quickly conquer Ukraine with minimal impact of the sale of oil and gas to Europe.
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Originally Posted by davidt1
Yeah, land grab and the resources that come with the lands. The areas that Russian terrorists have taken are also industrial and agricultural bases of Ukraine.
Also very important is Crimea, which contains the Russian Sevastopol naval base. Russia was paying Ukraine $90M a year to use the base. The Dictator Putin took advantage of Ukraine's unrest and invaded Crimea in 2014 and stole it.
That's why we must support Ukraine to take back their territory this time when there is a momentum to do so.
In 2022, is it necessary to go to war to get access to the natural resources in a country? It seems like we are past that point in history.
Crimea is an interesting case. It was autonomous from Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR. It is important to Russian because of the naval port at Sevastopol. This is the most important Russian naval base in the Black Sea, but not the only one. They have a naval base at Novorossiysk.
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90M was the deal of the century.
Now, Putin has started a war that he will probably have to fight as long as he lives. Certainly as long as he stays in power.
I agree it was the deal of the century.
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He is fighting for what he thinks is right. Just like the U.S. did every time we attacked another Country...then fought there for many years.
A nuke would just be to assure he doesn't "lose".
Why didn't we just use nuclear munitions on Iraq & Afghanistan?
But what was the last time the U.S. invaded another country with the objective of annexing it? I think you have to go back to the Spanish-American War, and we did not annex Cuba. The only possessions we still have are Puerto Rico and Guam, and were the last US annexations due to war.
But what was the last time the U.S. invaded another country with the objective of annexing it? I think you have to go back to the Spanish-American War, and we did not annex Cuba. The only possessions we still have are Puerto Rico and Guam, and were the last US annexations due to war.
I believe that would be the 1893 US overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii followed by the 1898 annexation.
"So Russia “shapes the battlefield” by leveling it. Ukraine does so by systematically cutting supply lines until the Russian garrison has no choice but to retreat or risk entrapment. Ukraine didn’t need to shell Kherson city to pressure Russians inside it. No shots were fired inside city limits. Same with Lyman. "
Ukrainian military targets supply lines, storage areas, and command centers. Seems they don't currently have artillery with enough range to reach the rail lines. But wondered why they haven't targeted the rail lines by other means. Is it just too dangerous?
"So Russia “shapes the battlefield” by leveling it. Ukraine does so by systematically cutting supply lines until the Russian garrison has no choice but to retreat or risk entrapment. Ukraine didn’t need to shell Kherson city to pressure Russians inside it. No shots were fired inside city limits. Same with Lyman. "
Ukrainian military targets supply lines, storage areas, and command centers. Seems they don't currently have artillery with enough range to reach the rail lines. But wondered why they haven't targeted the rail lines by other means. Is it just too dangerous?
It is too dangerous for the Spec Ops units. But there have been instances where they tried and have been successful. But usually they are stopped by Russian security troops.
The best bet is by drone. Then no Ukrainian troops get killed. This is just what happened in Saratov, about 700 kilometers deep in Russia. A drone or several drones detonated close to some Russian strategic bombers and one or two (maybe more?) have been damaged.
So you're upset because last time the bully got away with beating up his ex-stepbrother and taking his $h!t, but now that he has friends, the bully has to fight someone who fights back along with his friends?
It wasn't right then, and it isn't right now to take Ukraine's territory by force.
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