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Old 04-16-2019, 10:00 AM
 
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Can't really think of any conspiracy theories that seem plausible. Mainly because the more you know about government and the officials that work for the government, the more you realize how totally inept they are. The idea that a bunch of self serving politicians can create an alliance to execute some conspiracy is almost impossible to imagine.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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I am 100% convinced that the US Government is involved in a conspiracy to over tax me.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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There's lots of debate these days about conspiracy theories, especially regarding the deep state and government control and the truth behind many tragic events. Anything that doesn't agree with the liberal media's take on things is considered a "conspiracy theory" that should be silenced. But what conspiracy theories do YOU believe are true?? Which cases do you not believe the official media or government version of events?????

Here's my list ......

1. I do believe that Obama's birth certificate MAY have been forged. Though to be honest the fact that his mother is a U.S. citizen does make him eligible to be President, regardless of whether he was born in the US or not.

2. I do believe that Obama at least was a Muslim at SOME POINT in his life, though he probably is not a Muslim today. Not that his Islamic childhood hasn't affected in some ways. I won't consider Jeremiah Wright to be a true Christian either though......

3. Its my sincere belief that the federal government/deep state carried out the Las Vegas attack at Mandalay Bay. This was most likely to promote gun control and other left wing policies. I also find suspicious how many survivors died in very sketchy ways in the weeks after the shooting. I refuse to believe that a single person with no military or police experience, no history of mental illness, etc etc can just commit an act like this and shoot so accurately. (I do NOT believe that Sandy Hook or Parkland was staged, those were real events, though the media used them to promote their agenda).

4. I believe that the Waco Massacre in 1993 was indeed planned and orchestrated by the federal government/deep state under the orders of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno. Likewise I do believe that the activist at the Oregon wildlife refuge, Lamar Finicum, was indeed murdered in cold blood by federal agents. The Waco massacre may have been motivated by Reno and Clinton's desire to cover up how they botched the initial raid and the unconsitutionality of their initial attack against the compound and the abuse of power of the ATF and FBI goons.

5. I'd say there's at least a 20% possibility that Justice Antonin Scalia didn't really die of natural causes and that the Secret Service had him killed on Obama's orders. Its very suspicious how despite having no medical problems, he conveniently had a heart attack the one night he's away from his wife, on a property controlled by the Secret Service.....just in time for Obama to TRY to nominate another liberal judge to the court as his failed presidency was coming to an end.

6. I believe the Obama family and their political influence in Chicago had something to do with Jussie Smollett not being punished for his crimes.




My conspiracy theory: That Tom Lennox 70 is the name Alex Jones uses to post on City-Data.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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I don't believe we ever landed on the moon. We supposedly did it 50 years ago and then suddenly stopped. A few years ago when we decided we were going back it was going to take 6 years to get back. It only took seven from the time Kennedy announced that we would be there by the end of the decade. Didn't we keep any notes or records of our efforts in the 60's???
In the 1960s, we were smarter, better at math and physics, better organized, more motivated and more tolerant of failure and risk.

The sorts of experiments and trial-and-error learning that were possible back then, range between difficult and nearly impossible today. Just imagine doing the environmental impact studies on a new Saturn-V launch today! How many years would that take? How many billions of dollars? What if somebody dies on the launchpad? What if we have another Challenger-type of disaster? Or Apollo-1? Would the whole thing get cancelled? Would conservatives defeat it, as some liberal public-works boondoggle? Would liberals defeat it, as some conservative war-mongering sabre-rattling great-power competition that benefits nobody?

Yes, we have notes from the 1960s. Reading those notes is humbling. People back then were able to calculate with a sketch-pad and slide-rule, in a few minutes, what today takes a half-hour of programming in Matlab.

Yes, modern computers make things vastly easier… but also vastly harder. The physics hasn’t changed. Rocket propulsion hasn’t really changed. Thermodynamics and heat-transfer haven’t changed. 50 years later, the problem hasn’t gotten physically all that much easier, but programmatically and financially it’s become considerably harder.

If today we had a definitive “Go!â€, and “unlimited†budget, it might take 5 years for the first Saturn VI test-flight, and another 5 thereafter for an actual manned lunar orbital launch. And manned mission to Mars? Try 2080.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:28 PM
 
Location: NC
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9-11
Most Clinton Scandals
JFK
Las Vegas shooting
Parkland (possibly)
Osama being killed
Obama and his wife
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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There is so much evidence of this out there, the old phrase 'the truth is out there' is really accurate! Some have actually theorized, there is SO much evidence of this 'conspiracy' available to the public...this is intentional, sort of 'spoon feeding' the public little tidbits over the years, and eventually will lead to some kind of official disclosure.
I'm inclined to agree.

I was at TRADOC Heaquarters in 1984, and there was a meeting shortly after a major UFO incident in Europe. I think it was one of the so-called "black triangles." I did not participate in the meeting. My boss and my big boss and some admirals and generals were there, along with a lot of "suits." These suits weren't CIA or INSCOM. I know that, because I escorted them from their cars or the helipad to the meeting room and got them signed in, and they were introduced to me as "Doctor." I'm guessing that's "PhD" not "MD." I briefly overheard a discussion on type-classification based on style/shape and "assumed method of propulsion," and there were four such types.

The implication of that is there are four different alien civilizations that have been documented on Earth, however it could simply be one civilization with four different space vehicles, but I don't find that reasonable.

I've always wondered why they go through all the hassle of type-classifying space vehicles if UFOs didn't exist, and the answer seems to be because they do exist.

I get the impression the US is fearful, but the Russians not so much, as they seem to be more frank and forthcoming about incidents in their territory.

I've never read or heard anything to suggest they're hostile or aggressive. The incident at the missile base seems to me to be unforeseen unintended consequences of the way the propulsion system interacted with the missile silos and command and control systems, which actually says something about the propulsion system.

I've never seen a UFO, but I do have indirect and direct knowledge. When I was at the communications center listening to US, German, Belgian and French aircraft chase a UFO around for a little over an hour, it wasn't hostile. The NATO aircraft were hostile, but it didn't seem to phase it. In fact, it appeared to be toying with them.

I think the reason for the spoon-feeding is the sociological impact, especially with respect to religion. I don't think Hindus, Taoists, Buddhists, Muslims, Animists and others would be particularly disturbed by the revelation of alien life, but I can see where it might negatively impact Christianity and be disruptive.

Why don't they contact us? I believe them to be benevolent. If you have the power to travel to Earth, you have the power to destroy life on Earth, but they haven't done that, and a truly benevolent society would never interact with a lesser developed society. You just have to look at our own history to see the destructiveness when a more advanced society interacts with a lesser advanced society.

It would seem we'll have to wait until one crashes, or shoot one down, or advance our society far enough to make them want to contact us.
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Old 04-16-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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None of them.
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Old 04-16-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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Only one of these seems possible. It is the only one that doesn't have Obama or a judge mentioned.
YOu lost all credibility saying that Obama and Clinton didn't lie about Benghazi. Everyone knows they did.
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Old 04-16-2019, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
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Here's my list ......

1. I do believe that Obama's birth certificate MAY have been forged. Though to be honest the fact that his mother is a U.S. citizen does make him eligible to be President, regardless of whether he was born in the US or not.

2. I do believe that Obama at least was a Muslim at SOME POINT in his life, though he probably is not a Muslim today. Not that his Islamic childhood hasn't affected in some ways. I won't consider Jeremiah Wright to be a true Christian either though......

3. Its my sincere belief that the federal government/deep state carried out the Las Vegas attack at Mandalay Bay. This was most likely to promote gun control and other left wing policies. I also find suspicious how many survivors died in very sketchy ways in the weeks after the shooting. I refuse to believe that a single person with no military or police experience, no history of mental illness, etc etc can just commit an act like this and shoot so accurately. (I do NOT believe that Sandy Hook or Parkland was staged, those were real events, though the media used them to promote their agenda).

4. I believe that the Waco Massacre in 1993 was indeed planned and orchestrated by the federal government/deep state under the orders of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno. Likewise I do believe that the activist at the Oregon wildlife refuge, Lamar Finicum, was indeed murdered in cold blood by federal agents. The Waco massacre may have been motivated by Reno and Clinton's desire to cover up how they botched the initial raid and the unconsitutionality of their initial attack against the compound and the abuse of power of the ATF and FBI goons.

5. I'd say there's at least a 20% possibility that Justice Antonin Scalia didn't really die of natural causes and that the Secret Service had him killed on Obama's orders. Its very suspicious how despite having no medical problems, he conveniently had a heart attack the one night he's away from his wife, on a property controlled by the Secret Service.....just in time for Obama to TRY to nominate another liberal judge to the court as his failed presidency was coming to an end.

6. I believe the Obama family and their political influence in Chicago had something to do with Jussie Smollett not being punished for his crimes.
1. Didn't matter then, even less now. Come to think of it, that was the 'Russian Collusion' theory of the time. A nothing burger.

2. Who cares?

3. Doubt it. I would think that about Sandy Hook first.

4. First, it's LaVoy Finicum, not Lamar. Second, no real conspiracy here either. If anything, they are just more skirmishes in the war against the Second Amendment, the first shots were fired at Ruby Ridge. Then Waco, Oklahoma City, Bunkersville, and Malhuer.

5. Don't know.

6. Maybe. Something was fishy there, but it's Chicago.

Mine:
7. The Illuminati could exist and the best description of it and it's MO was given by John Todd back in the 70's and 80's. They did hire Alex Jones as their PR man.
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Old 04-16-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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I guess the only "conspiracy" I believe is that OrangeManBad is a REAL President and not an "illegitimate" President. In my neck of the woods, we call that REALITY -- of course most of us are Normal Folks and not nutters with constant IMPEACH! and Collusion-Delusion.
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