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Old 04-24-2019, 01:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball View Post
that's simple. obama's number was not issued a SS# at birth but obtained it in 1977 when he got his first job. ( same as myself and i was born in 1967 ).


when i get a chance i'll get you a link.
I'd appreciate it!

It seems like his SS# should have started with 968 if in fact he did not receive one until 1977. It clearly states in that link that after 1973 they were issued by the central office based on the first 3 digits of your zip code. Honolulu is all 968XX.

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Old 04-24-2019, 01:59 PM
 
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Regarding 9-11, I've come to the conclusion that there are two possibilities:


- The government was involved, or..


- The government was so grotesquely negligent that they can easily be blamed for it.


Either way, the blood of (almost) 3000 is on their hands (not including the hundreds of thousands that have died using the 9-11 incident to push their evil wars [Afghanistan, Iraq...])
That is why they handed out cash settlements to the victims families. You don't normally get cash payouts from the government when some bad guy murders you (or your surviving spouse doesn't anyway). That's hush-and-go-away money and we know it. They made them sign a waiver saying "no suing no matter what comes to light later on", or something to that effect.

You get the gist though. It was a big con to start a bunch of illegal wars of aggression for all sorts of greedy and nefarious reasons. As long as that is well understood the details fall into place later for those interested in them.

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Old 04-24-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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The silliest conspiracy theories I've ever heard are:
  • Global Warming for financial gain
  • HAARP
  • Chemtrails
  • Flat Earth
  • RFID chips
  • Vaccines and autism
  • Sandy Hook
  • Crop Circles
  • GMO conspiracy theories
  • Loch Ness monster
  • And who could forget Big Foot?

For the longest time it was Elvis is alive or Jim Morrison is alive.

Conspiracy theorists are a funny bunch!
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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It clearly states in that link that after 1973 they were issued by the central office based on the first 3 digits of your zip code. Honolulu is all 968XX.

correct, but if a "0" were hit instead of "9", two keys right next to each other, then the number would have been processed as having come from danbury CT.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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That is why they handed out cash settlements to the victims families. You don't normally get cash payouts from the government when some bad guy murders you (or your surviving spouse doesn't anyway). That's hush-and-go-away money and we know it. They made them sign a waiver saying "no suing no matter what comes to light later on", or something to that effect.

You get the gist though. It was a big con to start a bunch of illegal wars of aggression for all sorts of greedy and nefarious reasons. As long as that is well understood the details fall into place later for those interested in them.
And there are STILL 22 million (estimated - it's probably much higher than that) illegals wandering about here. This isn't even a country anymore, it's just an economic zone, really.
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Old 04-24-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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I'd appreciate it!

i do know that it was the birther susan daniels who pinned down the issue date of 1977 thru public records. hopefully i can find that work.
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Old 04-24-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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I'd appreciate it!

"When Daniels ran the numbers immediately flanking Obama’s, she came to the firm conviction that Obama’s number was issued in March 1977..."


https://www.wnd.com/2012/07/obamas-s...er-challenged/
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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I'd appreciate it!

It seems like his SS# should have started with 968 if in fact he did not receive one until 1977. It clearly states in that link that after 1973 they were issued by the central office based on the first 3 digits of your zip code. Honolulu is all 968XX.
Actually that is not altogether correct. My son was born in PA 1973 & his SS# starts with 204 and the zip was 191. I have noticed the numbers that start with 1,2,3 seem to be on the east coast & they go up as you are born across the country. I know that CA SS# start with a 9.
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Old 04-24-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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There's lots of debate these days about conspiracy theories, especially regarding the deep state and government control and the truth behind many tragic events. Anything that doesn't agree with the liberal media's take on things is considered a "conspiracy theory" that should be silenced. But what conspiracy theories do YOU believe are true?? Which cases do you not believe the official media or government version of events?????

Here's my list ......

1. I do believe that Obama's birth certificate MAY have been forged. Though to be honest the fact that his mother is a U.S. citizen does make him eligible to be President, regardless of whether he was born in the US or not.

2. I do believe that Obama at least was a Muslim at SOME POINT in his life, though he probably is not a Muslim today. Not that his Islamic childhood hasn't affected in some ways. I won't consider Jeremiah Wright to be a true Christian either though......

3. Its my sincere belief that the federal government/deep state carried out the Las Vegas attack at Mandalay Bay. This was most likely to promote gun control and other left wing policies. I also find suspicious how many survivors died in very sketchy ways in the weeks after the shooting. I refuse to believe that a single person with no military or police experience, no history of mental illness, etc etc can just commit an act like this and shoot so accurately. (I do NOT believe that Sandy Hook or Parkland was staged, those were real events, though the media used them to promote their agenda).

4. I believe that the Waco Massacre in 1993 was indeed planned and orchestrated by the federal government/deep state under the orders of Bill Clinton and Janet Reno. Likewise I do believe that the activist at the Oregon wildlife refuge, Lamar Finicum, was indeed murdered in cold blood by federal agents. The Waco massacre may have been motivated by Reno and Clinton's desire to cover up how they botched the initial raid and the unconsitutionality of their initial attack against the compound and the abuse of power of the ATF and FBI goons.

5. I'd say there's at least a 20% possibility that Justice Antonin Scalia didn't really die of natural causes and that the Secret Service had him killed on Obama's orders. Its very suspicious how despite having no medical problems, he conveniently had a heart attack the one night he's away from his wife, on a property controlled by the Secret Service.....just in time for Obama to TRY to nominate another liberal judge to the court as his failed presidency was coming to an end.

6. I believe the Obama family and their political influence in Chicago had something to do with Jussie Smollett not being punished for his crimes.
I agree with all of these.
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The closest thing to a conspiracy-theory that I believe, is that the wealthy and the corporations control the government through their control of the corporate mass-media. And that they manipulate everyone to make sure either nothing changes at all, or only changes that benefit them. They can get lefties clamoring for war, and conservatives demanding more spending, because of this idiotic team-sport called democracy.

As for your list...

1) I think Obama was born in Hawaii. It doesn't make sense why his mother would travel to Kenya to give birth. Especially for her first pregnancy.

2) Obama was a Muslim in the same sense that many children are Christians. They are whatever their parents are, and he was living in Indonesia. I also don't think Obama is a "true Christian", but I think he likes the fellowship, and I do think he believes in something like a god.

3) The Las Vegas shooting is such a strange thing that I have no idea what to think of it. But he shot a thousand rounds. It only seemed accurate because he was firing into a crowd. And almost no discussion about gun-control even came out of it, and almost no one ever talks about it.

4) I don't think they were trying to murder Finicum, but I do think it was another example of excessive force. The Waco Siege falls into the same camp. The Federal government tried to be tough-guys and got a lot of people killed.

5) I think if Obama wanted to kill Scalia he would have done it a long time ago. It wasn't politically-advantageous under the circumstances, and a conspiracy of that nature is difficult to hide. If anything, Scalia's death helped Trump by motivating Republicans.

6) Smollett has rich and well-connected privilege. If it wasn't Obama, it was countless others in Chicago just like him. Had Smollett been poor, he would be going to prison.
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1. I believe all the Kennedy's were killed by our government

2. I believe Obama was not really an American Citizen and he is Muslim.

3. Hillary and Obama tried to hide the fact of what happened in Benghazi

4. I believe the Clinton's had Vince Foster killed

5. Justice Antonin Scalia was murdered
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Mine:

Roosevelt knew the Japs would attack long before. He wanted the U.S. to enter WWII.
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1. I don't know if those one even counts but Oswald obviously didn't act alone.
2. MH370 didn't just disappear. That plane went somewhere and someone knows. I suspect it may have when north instead of south.
3. I don't really get into the Obama birther theories. It just doesn't matter at this point.
4. I do believe Obama is a muslim at heart. Whether he openly practices is a different discussion.
5. I have no doubt that the govt was covering something up with the LV shooting. I don't know if they were directly involved but they covered something up. We know he had friends with high DoD clearance.
6. The Clinton's have had people killed.
Agree with all of these.
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Most conspiracy theories are at least somewhat based on fact, and many so-called conspiracy theories have been brought to the surface as factual--see the CIA mind-control experiments on both people and dogs.

As for mine? Israel did 9/11.

https://www.haaretz.com/1.5396918
The Dancing Israelis, by Philip Giraldi - The Unz Review
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-9/11
-The meth epidemic
-Common core
-Homosexual marriage and LGBT activism
-Drug legalization
-Gun control
-Illegal immigration
-Radical environmentalism
-Feminism
-Socialism
-Militant secularism
-Degrading pop culture (not all pop culture)
-Psychological warfare through the media (starting with Hollywood always portraying fathers as weak, dumb, etc...)

Have all been financed/created/pushed/encouraged by America's real enemies : Zionist financial and political elites in the US and abroad. Their goal is to seize control of America's power and end its sovereignty, not by force but through deception. America's military and economic power must serve these people's interests in priority. They will use the UN as a smokescreen.

To subjugate American people's minds, dumb them down and reformat them, the national culture and shared traditional concepts must be destroyed : belief in God, (traditional) family, and country must be broken and children's minds must be plugged into the matrix...I meant shaped according to the needs of the deep state as early as possible. Religious teachings, responsible parenting and national history are seen as competition which must be replaced by (deep) state defined beliefs and ideas.
100% agree this is the most spot on.
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I don't believe in any conspiracy theory.

Although I have liberal friends who believe:

~Vaccines cause autism.
~Drug companies conspire to make people sick and thus dependent on drugs.
~GMOs are bad for us.
~'Natural' toothpaste is good for your teeth.
~Trump colluded with the Russians.
Agree with all but the Trump one. In fact we don't vaccinate,we eat as much GMO free stuff as we can and we don't use toothpaste with fluoride in it.
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Old 04-24-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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I don't believe in any conspiracy theory.

Although I have liberal friends who believe:

~Vaccines cause autism.
~Drug companies conspire to make people sick and thus dependent on drugs.
~GMOs are bad for us.
~'Natural' toothpaste is good for your teeth.
~Trump colluded with the Russians.
It might be different where you live, but around here the anti-vaxxers tend to be radical religious types. Like, barefoot pregnant housewives wearing homemade ankle length denim skirts types.

As for the drug companies, they do profit off of people needing their drugs. And there's very limited free market competition to keep them honest because they lobby the hell out of politicians for patent laws that ensure the market is near impenetrable for potential competitors.

I'm not saying they're outright poisoning people or whatnot. Just that there's more financial incentive for drug companies to focus on managing illness than to strive for actual cures.
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