If Phoenix is that hot, why do so many move there? (Scottsdale: mobile home, discounts)

[locolife]

Originally Posted by mlulu23

To make it relevant. Here is the toasty Phoenix forecast.


Thursday
0%103°74°Night - Clear. Winds variable at 4 to 7 mph (6.4 to 11.3 kph). The overnight low will be 77 °F (25.0 °C).Sunny with a high of 106 °F (41.1 °C). Winds variable at 2 to 9 mph (3.2 to 14.5 kph).
Friday
0%106°75°Sunny today with a high of 106 °F (41.1 °C) and a low of 75 °F (23.9 °C).
Saturday
0%107°80°Sunny today with a high of 107 °F (41.7 °C) and a low of 80 °F (26.7 °C).
Sunday
0%104°79°Sunny today with a high of 104 °F (40.0 °C) and a low of 79 °F (26.1 °C).
Monday
0%104°78°Sunny today with a high of 104 °F (40.0 °C) and a low of 78 °F (25.6 °C).
Tuesday
0%107°79°Mostly sunny today with a high of 107 °F (41.7 °C) and a low of 79 °F (26.1 °C).
Wednesday
0%107°85°Partly cloudy today with a high of 107 °F (41.7 °C) and a low of 85 °F (29.4 °C).
Thursday
0%104°86°Partly cloudy today with a high of 104 °F (40.0 °C) and a low of 86 °F (30.0 °C).
Friday
0%100°86°Partly cloudy today with a high of 100 °F (37.8 °C) and a low of 86 °F (30.0 °C).
Saturday
5%96°82°Partly cloudy today with a high of 96 °F (35.6 °C) and a low of 82 °F (27.8 °C).
Sun

Wow not a single 110 day covering between now and June 26th and even 1 day forecast for under 100. Hopefully this means the monsoon may be headed out way, those higher overnight lows make it look like humidity will be in the air. And with the parched conditions an early monsoon season would be very welcome.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by locolife

Wow not a single 110 day covering between now and June 26th and even 1 day forecast for under 100. Hopefully this means the monsoon may be headed out way, those higher overnight lows make it look like humidity will be in the air. And with the parched conditions an early monsoon season would be very welcome.

Each run of the weather models makes it look like monsoon will be here early. Not a surprise, really, as that is usually the case when winter leaves scant snowpack on the Rockies. You can't get much more "scant" than this year. It's funny. Every year we wish for monsoon and then are thrilled when it, and the humidity, go away in September.

[BIG CATS]

Originally Posted by locolife

Wow not a single 110 day covering between now and June 26th and even 1 day forecast for under 100. Hopefully this means the monsoon may be headed out way, those higher overnight lows make it look like humidity will be in the air. And with the parched conditions an early monsoon season would be very welcome.

I'm enjoying this forecast, to be honest. Anything over 100 still sucks, but 115+ is where I am reminded that PHX really does have the worst big city temps in the States. The evenings have still been a little enjoyable, too. Its a bit warmer than I like, but not oppressive. Yet.

[DougStark]

Originally Posted by locolobo13

Having driven both of the auto routes listed above I can't recall anyplace along the route where there is no life at all. The third route is flying. There are always bushes and grasses even in the most barren parts of those routes. You just have to look.

That is what this whole subthread is about. The impressions of a driver crossing Arizona. Mistaken impressions.

To tie this back to the main topic, yes, many people crossing the desert for the first time have the same impression. Pointing this out to them while crossing the desert yields a, "Pfft(! That's not plant life! Not like back home."

My only response is you're not back home anymore.

We're not home anymore and I still can't find Toto!!😞

[grad_student200]

Originally Posted by TootsieWootsie

This is not meant to be sarcastic at all, but a real question: If it is so gawdawful hot there--and I really have never been there but am interested--why do so many move there? It seems folks there are stuck in the air conditioning for 4-5 months of the year. Can someone clarify this for me?
I'm seriously looking to move there because there are so many baby boomers there, but people in the Midwest keep telling me how hot it is there and that I will not like it.
The Phoenix region surely has to be better for my allergies than Houston was where I had cold-like symptoms way more than I ever should have had.
But, if people are getting stuck living in their homes for 4-5 months of the year due to the heat, that's just like living in Chicago where folks get stuck in the house for 4-5 months of the year due to the chilling cold. Dang!

As I said last week, the acclimatization is the key. I made it up to about 85% of the trail but turned around. I had been trying to keep up with local hikers. I just turned around. The guys near me seemed surprised I did that because I had been keeping up with them the whole time. But I did not feel acclimatized and was about to have heat cramps. This was on Piestewa Peak.

But a week later I tried again and was much stronger. I made it. I feel great. The acclimatization is key.

[Burkmere]

Originally Posted by BIG CATS

I'm enjoying this forecast, to be honest. Anything over 100 still sucks, but 115+ is where I am reminded that PHX really does have the worst big city temps in the States. The evenings have still been a little enjoyable, too. Its a bit warmer than I like, but not oppressive. Yet.

That's why nobody lives there. It's horrible all year long.

Minneapolis/St. Paul is a large metro area and I'd say the Dec through Feb. temps there can be pretty brutal also. Where I grew up and moved bak to (Upper Great Plains) can be considerably colder than the Twin Cities especially factoring in wind chill. I dunno...70 below wind chills vs 115? Not sure which is worse...

[wase4711]

70 below windchills much worse
115, means stay inside with ac on
70 below windchills, pipes can freeze, furnace can malfunction, slippery and icy everywhere
I remember one day many years ago, windchill in Chicago -83.. in humane day to even step out for a second, and I was a big time ice fishing/cold weather lover back then..

no comparison 115 is a zillion times more tolerable

[Burkmere]

Originally Posted by wase4711

70 below windchills much worse
115, means stay inside with ac on
70 below windchills, pipes can freeze, furnace can malfunction, slippery and icy everywhere
I remember one day many years ago, windchill in Chicago -83.. in humane day to even step out for a second, and I was a big time ice fishing/cold weather lover back then..

no comparison 115 is a zillion times more tolerable

Yep, for sure.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Burkmere

That's why nobody lives there. It's horrible all year long.

Minneapolis/St. Paul is a large metro area and I'd say the Dec through Feb. temps there can be pretty brutal also. Where I grew up and moved bak to (Upper Great Plains) can be considerably colder than the Twin Cities especially factoring in wind chill. I dunno...70 below wind chills vs 115? Not sure which is worse...

On a 70 below day with windchills the best part of the day is likely 100 degrees below ideal of 70 outside, assuming it was at least 30 below at some point on that type of day. On a 115 day it’s abour 45 degrees above ideal but low was likely in the 80s and you can go out in the early morning for hikes, walks etc... plus the lakes, rivers and pools feel fantastic.

I find Phoenix summers way more tolerable than northern winters.

[Mr.Retired]

The Good Points:
Scottsdale is beautiful. 8 months out of the year. Perfect senior weather ( clear up them joint problems ).
Night sky is gorgeous. You can literally see the universe.


The Bad Points:
The other 4 months well,
Arizona is called the Valley of the Sun
More like the surface of the Sun ! L.O.L.
You can'y go out barefoot or without a hat. Drink plenty of water.Sorry.The water sucks.
No need for towels after coming out of the pool. You instantly dry off.
All cars are cloth covered ,no plastic or leather unless you want to fry.
All cars come with Standard A.C.
Can't lean on your car during those hot days . Advise to keep it garaged.


That's my quick take.