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Old 06-04-2018, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by BIG CATS View Post
Ive spent dozens of hours on the SW Kansas plains doing field herpetology, so yes, Im quite familiar with it. Visit the Cimarron Grasslands sometime. Tons of prickly pear and yucca, looks like high desert.


Cimarron National Grassland - Kansas


And palm trees are irrelevant to this conversation. We're discussing varying geography and weather. And besides, palms aren't native to PHX anyways.
The washingtonia filifera is native to SW Arizona.

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Old 06-04-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
The washingtonian filifera is native to SW Arizona.
One tiny grove, yes. They're not naturally found in PHX, though.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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No, no, I didn't explain clearly. I was simply stating that having traveled from Las Vegas,NV to El Paso,TX I had the opportunity to see a large expanse of the state, I was not implying that the whole state, or even a majority was desolate. I saw much of what you describe. Also, I love AZ, I was simply responding to the OP whom wondering why so many move to AZ, either not realizing how hot it is, or regretting their decision. Here are some similar pictures I was referring to...






Highly selective, instead of doing Google:" barren desert" lets be a little more authentic and drop street views along the rout from Vegas to New Mexico


https://goo.gl/maps/bJ8XAjkKADy


https://goo.gl/maps/jYVJkmx2dep


https://goo.gl/maps/Ak4tS2FJ8J72 (this one is outside of "nothing" Az)


https://goo.gl/maps/3bRC6P2G8d72


https://goo.gl/maps/T9MENt7SemF2 Hey look we are in Phoenix now


https://goo.gl/maps/bqvVXzXBfZA2 halfway to Tucson


https://goo.gl/maps/UoQmiC58oAk


https://goo.gl/maps/FT4KUyzJfK62


https://goo.gl/maps/juevnDnJcq82


https://goo.gl/maps/1YjTuxr2fXH2 next stop New Mexico, this is probably the most desolate area on The trip


If you take the 40 instead of the 93


https://goo.gl/maps/Fhm29go3TF42


https://goo.gl/maps/byW5U9MimRq


https://goo.gl/maps/TX1qrZ5wx232


https://goo.gl/maps/P2QakZWXPGJ2


https://goo.gl/maps/atfCmW6fx8y


https://goo.gl/maps/R8HPo1tBEbo


and here we are in New Mexico again.


you are a spreader of lies, begone!
 
Old 06-04-2018, 07:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BIG CATS View Post
Ive spent dozens of hours on the SW Kansas plains doing field herpetology, so yes, Im quite familiar with it. Visit the Cimarron Grasslands sometime. Tons of prickly pear and yucca, looks like high desert.


Cimarron National Grassland - Kansas


And palm trees are irrelevant to this conversation. We're discussing varying geography and weather. And besides, palms aren't native to PHX anyways.
That is pretty cool but SW Kansas to Northern MN is over 1,000 miles apart, that's the likes of comparing Phoenix to Portland, Oregon. I don't think anyone in the extreme SW corner of KS considers themselves the Midwest, not that anyone lives there to ask anyways. I'm guessing the largest population center is Amarillo, Texas.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 07:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 9162 View Post
No, no, I didn't explain clearly. I was simply stating that having traveled from Las Vegas,NV to El Paso,TX I had the opportunity to see a large expanse of the state, I was not implying that the whole state, or even a majority was desolate. I saw much of what you describe. Also, I love AZ, I was simply responding to the OP whom wondering why so many move to AZ, either not realizing how hot it is, or regretting their decision. Here are some similar pictures I was referring to...






Where did you take or get these pictures? They don't look anywhere I've driven from Vegas to SE of Tucson.... There's almost always some cacti, Ocotillos, Creosote, Palo Verdes and some other plants growing unless it's former farmland that's been abandoned, then it may be a blank slate but not like what you posted.

Your photos may be Northern AZ, Northeast of Flag on the Plateau perhaps? But that's not something you'd run into driving from Vegas to Phoenix or from Phoenix to Tucson. Nor are these really what you see in day to day life in nearly every populated place in Arizona.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Obadno View Post
Highly selective, instead of doing Google:" barren desert" lets be a little more authentic and drop street views along the rout from Vegas to New Mexico


https://goo.gl/maps/bJ8XAjkKADy


https://goo.gl/maps/jYVJkmx2dep


https://goo.gl/maps/Ak4tS2FJ8J72 (this one is outside of "nothing" Az)


https://goo.gl/maps/3bRC6P2G8d72


https://goo.gl/maps/T9MENt7SemF2 Hey look we are in Phoenix now


https://goo.gl/maps/bqvVXzXBfZA2 halfway to Tucson


https://goo.gl/maps/UoQmiC58oAk


https://goo.gl/maps/FT4KUyzJfK62


https://goo.gl/maps/juevnDnJcq82


https://goo.gl/maps/1YjTuxr2fXH2 next stop New Mexico, this is probably the most desolate area on The trip


If you take the 40 instead of the 93


https://goo.gl/maps/Fhm29go3TF42


https://goo.gl/maps/byW5U9MimRq


https://goo.gl/maps/TX1qrZ5wx232


https://goo.gl/maps/P2QakZWXPGJ2


https://goo.gl/maps/atfCmW6fx8y


https://goo.gl/maps/R8HPo1tBEbo


and here we are in New Mexico again.


you are a spreader of lies, begone!
Yeah, those are accurate of the view you'd get from Vegas to New Mexico, a good portion of Arizona.
 
Old 06-04-2018, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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What is it with the Phoenix National weather service lately? Excessive heat warnings for today? Humidity was 5% or so and it is nice in the mornings and evenings. It's June for heaven's sake. This is what happens in June. Are these warnings for the benefit of newcomers?
 
Old 06-04-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by BIG CATS View Post
To me, KS and northern MN are just as different as PHX is from FLG. SW KS weather is rather mild, whereas northern MN is the coldest in the lower 48. SW KS is virtually treeless, with cacti and yucca everywhere, and northern MN is dense forests. SW KS is quite dry, northern MN has 10K lakes, thundering waterfalls, etc. SW KS is board flat, northern MN has small mountains which look like New England.

I don't know how it could get much more different than that.
Very nice comparisons, thank you.

Don't forget that SW Kansas has tons of rattlesnakes, and a yearly Rattlesnake Roundup in Sharon Springs. (It had to be snakes)

Rattlesnake Roundup Locater – Rattlesnake Recipes and Cooking with Snake Meat

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Old 06-04-2018, 11:03 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I never saw any yucca or cacti all the times I went to southwest Kansas. Have you ever been to Western Kansas? Because I have. It really doesn't look much different than western Nebraska.

And again. You aren't going to find sunny warm and palm trees in the midwest in the winter like here in AZ, it's all cold and barren that time of year
I've been to western Kansas too, and you missed both of them . I lived along the front range of Colorado for several decades, and have driven around some of western Kansas especially Atwood, and Colby. There is definitely cacti in eastern Colo, and western Kansas. The Prickly Pear, and others. Their spines are impressive. Tree Cacti, and Yucca are also at home in Kansas.

https://www.emporia.edu/ksn/v08n2-ja...962/index.html

https://www.kfb.org/Article/Prickly-pear-cactus



Prickly Pear (Opuntia macrorhiza) - Guide to Kansas Plants









Kansas Wildflowers and Grasses - Yucca



https://fineartamerica.com/featured/...is-harris.html

https://www.mickeyshannon.com/kansas...irie-preserve/

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Last edited by mlulu23; 06-04-2018 at 11:26 PM..
 
Old 06-05-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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There were cacti growing all over Illinois, too. Most people wouldn't believe it until they saw it themselves.
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