Coronavirus in Massachusetts (tenant, restaurants, dangerous)

[mdovell]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

First of all this has nothing to do with online services. shoes are one of the worst items to buy online because a size 9 in a nike is not the same as a size 9 in a converse. you don't know if a shoe fits unless you try it on. some take wide shoes in some brands while that same person might need a more slim shoe in another brand.

we can debate all day what we want to call these shutdowns but the fact the government discriminated against small businesses can not be denied. these businesses that went out of business was not compensated by the state which closed them down. this is a violation of the 5th amendment....

nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. there it is no property shall be taken without just compensation. if the government can shut you down then they are essentially taking control of your property and violating contract laws. the way around this or the loophole they use is public health.

it is also a violation of contract laws to shut down businesses because the business rentor has a contract with the owner.

this virus is nothing and the delta variant is less deadly for healthy people than the other variants. Dr Geert vanden bossche warns of vaccinating people during a pandemic. these vaccines might be causing the variants.

do not compare brushing your teeth to taking an experimental vaccine people are being forced to take. they are violating the Nuremberg code with experiments by forcing people to take this vaccine for federal employees. if we don't have body autonomy then we have no freedom at all. this vaccine could end up killing millions we do not know the long-term effects of this. no, I will not take a vaccine for a virus with a 99 percent survival rate. these employers do have liability though if someone is proven to die or get seriously injured from these vaccines. the vaccine makers have immunity from any legal recourse. they are getting rid of informed consent for this experimental concoction.

if someone tried to force me to take this vaccine i would gouge their eyes out.

fast forward to the 27 minute mark of the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKs3E4w4Uw

When was the last time dr fauci saw a patient?

Really because I know a guy that sells odd sizes for shoes online and does well (say a mens 7.5). No it is not a violation of contract laws. The government didn't shut down any business. It was the business plan that failed. I have family that runs multiple restaurants. So you do take out, you do outdoor dining, you have drinks to go. No it is not a violation of contract laws to shut down businesses because the business rentor has a contract with the owner. I worked with a guy who had a former employer that sold gold and silver back in the 80s. Well he did something shady because the feds raided the place. The place shut down. Not his fault mind you but yes you can shut down a place if it is doing things illegal.

It's no longer considered experimental at this stage. It is not a violation of the Nuremberg "code" as that is not actual law. It does not kill millions.

You are aware that the anti vax crowd/conspiracy theory crowd is a industry...right? Alex Jones has made millions of dollars by saying the world is going to end tomorrow even though he's done this for over 20 years. In his own divorce proceedings he openly had to say that it's all an act. It's like a cult. The leaders don't really believe it. Some of these conspiracy theorists actually ARE vaccinated but they don't want to let people know that. This is all just a way to get people upset and controlled by the lobby so they keep giving money. David Ick in the UK is another.

The video is actually heavily edited on the 27 mark. Moreover he also says planes didn't take down the towers during 9/11..um I'm sorry but he isn't a judge and he doesn't have a law license anymore and hasn't really worked in four years.

Please tell us all what specific business closed permanent due to this that did not have some way of doing it online. Keep in mind the trades, manufacturing (detroit did not shut down for that long) and landscaping didn't get shut down. Government still functioned, the military still functioned. I'm in CT and hardly anything closed it was just large events. So if you worked with your hands it wasn't shut down and if you have an administrative job you telecommuted. What are these other jobs you are talking about?

Here's the other basic thing here.

1) People refuse to take the vaccine
2) Due to the lack of levels of a percentage vaccinated the virus mutates and gets worse
3) People complain and say the vaccine doesn't work and/or masks are a waste
4) Virus mutates AGAIN getting worse

The fact is if things are getting worse it's due to those not being vaccinated. If you really don't want to get it ok fine but don't come back crying later on. If your insurance is dropped it's not our fault. Please show us what specific businesses cannot do business online and were shutdown. Everyone knew that eventually everything would be done online or at least hte option. I just went into Staples for a printer cable $28. Amazon has it for $7 and I get it shipped tomorrow for free. Why pay 4x the price for overhead?

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

I was looking at last night's weekly by-town COVID-19 numbers. New Bedford is at 22 per day per 100,000. Only the national news Provincetown outbreak is higher. Not exactly shocking. 42% vaccination rate. Delta variant. No community outreach to speak of. Florida-north.

I visited New Bedford back in early July and managed to get out unscathed! Too bad though. Great food and friendly people down there. I wonder what's holding them back from getting vaccinated.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

I visited New Bedford back in early July and managed to get out unscathed! Too bad though. Great food and friendly people down there. I wonder what's holding them back from getting vaccinated.

Only 17% of adults are college educated. 1/4 don’t have a high school education. 20% poverty level. 37% don’t speak English at home. Without a huge amount of targeted outreach by the state, people get swallowed up by the vaccine mythology.

[redplum33]

I think it's a mistake to view areas with high vaccination rates as being safe.

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by redplum33

I think it's a mistake to view areas with high vaccination rates as being safe.

This is especially true if the area has a major tourist attraction. A lot of unvaccinated out of towners could congregate in one setting not frequented by vaccinated locals and you'd still be in just as much danger there as a place with low vaccination rates.

[bostongymjunkie]

Especially since it appears that vaccinated people may also carry and transmit COVID.

[justyouraveragetenant]

https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0bJfT...7fiym&hl=en_US

People vaccinated are just as likely to pass delta variant as the unvaccinated.

[Jacconn]

Originally Posted by redplum33

I think it's a mistake to view areas with high vaccination rates as being safe.

You’re right they aren’t safe from transmission. But they are safe for getting anything but mild or asymptomatic cases. Not all cases are created equal, by a long shot, between vaxxed and unvaxxed populations. Ptown showed us that 800 people can catch it but in an overwhelmingly vaccinated population the health implications were virtually nil. So I consider that pretty safe!

[OutdoorLover]

One thing to bear in mind is that with the recent Barnstable County outbreak - yes they had a good deal of transmission and public gatherings seem to have played a significant role. But, while cases rates spiked, hospitalizations and deaths were affected much less - no doubt due to the good vaccination rates there, and my understanding is that the spike in cases subsided within 2 weeks after the public gatherings were curtailed, again, no doubt due to good vaccination rates there. There is reason for concern in Mass, but at this stage, not reason for widespread alarm. Hopefully people will continue to vaccinate, especially in local areas with particularly low vaccination rates as @GeoffD has referenced.

[msRB311]

Despite all these outbreaks and fears life seems to be carrying on as usual. Restaurants are packed, concerts and sporting events are in full swing. Most people seem to be over the fear of getting covid. Most.