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Old 08-07-2021, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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If even a fraction of 45,000 deaths were attributable to the COVID vaccine, there'd be deep investigations and halts on distribution. J&J had single-digit numbers attributable deaths and faced a pause in distribution to investigate.

Anybody estimating 45,000 is off by a lot. Those 'somes' who think this approval delays are due to this are either horribly misinformed or have ulterior motives for their claims.

You're talking about companies that specialize in vaccine development and testing. Even with the rushes and urgency to roll out vaccines for COVID, they don't make basic mistakes on the level you're insinuating.

By all means, though, cite that your data comes from VAERS because nobody would think anti-vaxxers will contort the openly-available data to spread misinformation. Oh, right. Well, thankfully, NPR's already done the explaining.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-covid-vaccine
Yes, those statements from justyouraveragetenant that you quoted are just wildly, blatantly false.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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It is estimated these vaccines have killed 45 thousand.
This is the sort of poisonous message that is literally killing people. There are people dying from Covid wishing they had gotten the vaccine.
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Old 08-08-2021, 05:28 AM
 
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This is the sort of poisonous message that is literally killing people. There are people dying from Covid wishing they had gotten the vaccine.
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com...al-government/

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/...0/posts?page=5

https://nypost.com/2021/01/28/ca-hea...id-19-vaccine/

https://abc7.com/moderna-vaccine-cov...tion/10562182/

This physician quotes the same number...https://odysee.com/@NewsClipArchive:...05:3?src=embed

Last edited by justyouraveragetenant; 08-08-2021 at 05:41 AM..
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Old 08-08-2021, 05:56 AM
 
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From the CDC:
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More than 346 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through August 2, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,490 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
Dusting off my mighty STEM skills, ~700,000 COVID-19 deaths. 6,490 deaths reported out of 346 million vaccinations. I’m at least 100x more likely to get killed by COVID-19 than by a vaccination.
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Old 08-08-2021, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Dusting off my mighty STEM skills, ~700,000 COVID-19 deaths. 6,490 deaths reported out of 346 million vaccinations. I’m at least 100x more likely to get killed by COVID-19 than by a vaccination.
Yes, and that's before you take into account that most of the 6,490 deaths in the VAERS database are merely coincidental. The actual likelihood of death due to the vaccine is far lower. "FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause."
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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The hundreds of indoor MASKLESS guests at Pres.Obamas B- party proves the political elite and woke dont think masks are necessary if you have. Been Vaxed.
I guess I will follow my leader.
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:42 AM
 
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The hundreds of indoor MASKLESS guests at Pres.Obamas B- party proves the political elite and woke dont think masks are necessary if you have. Been Vaxed.
I guess I will follow my leader.

The big party has been cancelled and changed to a few friends and family.
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Old 08-08-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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The big party has been cancelled and changed to a few friends and family.
Sure....up to 400 guests...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Birthday.html
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:28 AM
 
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Yes, and that's before you take into account that most of the 6,490 deaths in the VAERS database are merely coincidental. The actual likelihood of death due to the vaccine is far lower. "FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause."
You don't know if it coincidental vaers is known to be under reported.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The ghetto
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Despite all these outbreaks and fears life seems to be carrying on as usual. Restaurants are packed, concerts and sporting events are in full swing. Most people seem to be over the fear of getting covid. Most.

The recent increase in mask usage shows otherwise.

Irresponsible comment, msRB311.
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