Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Pittsfield, Franklin, Greenfield: transplants, per capita, exercise)

[btownboss4]

Looking at the county distribution it’s clear the NY situation is hurting Massachusetts.

Hampden and Berkshire county are 2 of the 3 highest concentrations in the state.

[Bridge781]

Originally Posted by wror

Apparently 60 and over is old, in Massachusetts
It is not happening in my state, but the state i moved out of:Massachusetts. Such a good decision.

So your 60 or older in a Mass hospital with a ventilator, a younger patient comes into the hospital, what does Mass do? yank the ventilator from the older person for the younger people?

Would like to see a photo or list of who makes up the "State of Massachusetts's Crisis Standards of Care Advisory Committee" that has issued the edict to test my foregone conclusion who makes up the committee.

Right you could be working on a cure for cancer but if you’re over 60 and 30 yr old criminal needs the ventilator- see ya. Ugh.

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

3 days seems a bit low. My employer, a global CM, requires one full week (7 days) before returning to manufacturing sites. Dev sites are working from home until local governance lifts non-essential isolation measures ... the decided to not game the system.

7 days full pay? That’s pretty good.

I believe we are following what our Asian sites do. It’s technically 72 hours after fever subsides, or 7 days after last symptom.

Its made manufacturing difficult these days as 1) a lot of workers don’t feel safe coming in so they don’t. And 2) what workers that do come in get sent home at a low threshold temp.

Dev engineers are splitting time WFH and going into the lab

[wror]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Right you could be working on a cure for cancer but if you’re over 60 and 30 yr old criminal needs the ventilator- see ya. Ugh.

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Also,about the young Massachusetts person who went to Spring Break last month, mocked about coronavirus on her social media page ,then returned to Massachusetts ony to come down with the virus. I have a link to that story
She would now get a ventilator in a Massachusetts hospital over a older Massachusetts resident.

Massachusetts use to have the best hospitals in the world. .
Not any longer.
They lost their trustworthiness.
Now they play games with people's lives like a third world country hospitals.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by wror

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Also,about the young Massachusetts person who went to Spring Break last month, mocked about coronavirus on her social media page ,then returned to Massachusetts ony to come down with the virus. I have a link to that story
She would now get a ventilator in a Massachusetts hospital over a older Massachusetts resident.

Massachusetts use to have the best hospitals in the world. .
Not any longer.
They lost their trustworthiness.
Now they play games with people's lives like a third world country hospitals.

I think the thing that you're not recognizing is that it doesn't matter WHICH state you're in, if the hospitals don't have enough ventilators, then not everyone will get one. Do the math. And no matter who is left out, they and their loves ones will be angry and hurt. And making such choices will weigh heavy on the medical staff who need to carry them out - I sure wouldn't want that job.

So rather than put staffers in the position of agonizing over arbitrary decisions of life and death, it makes sense to provide a policy that takes them out of the equation, so they are not directly responsible, and things can be managed in some rational manner. Otherwise you'd have chaos and staffers quitting - there may *still* be some of that in fact.

Try to have a little compassion for the caregivers, not just the patients.

[Bridge781]

I guess I missed the racist part ?

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

I guess I missed the racist part ?

You just happened to miss where he said a group of non white medical professionals were planning on committing white genocide?

[Bridge781]

Oh I did see that a few pages back.

[Amontillado]

Massachusetts coronavirus numbers: 433 deaths and 16,790 cases.

https://www.bostonherald.com/

But another article is titled "Massachusetts sewage suggests more than 100K coronavirus cases in state: MIT lab"

And if they're saying it in an MIT lab, how can it not be true?

[PamelaIamela]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

It's not for the wearer. It's so the wearer who is infected doesn't infect everyone else. The goal here is to knock R0 down so we stop having large outbreaks. If everyone wears a mask and practices at least some social distancing, the transmission rate drops to a manageable level and we can restart the economy. Of course, the Orange Cheeto refusing to wear a mask is absolutely the wrong messaging.

YES, it IS to protect the wearer.
Or are ALL our first responders infected?
Please people, think about this critically.

Here is someone who spoke out recently:
In the Local.fr (French news in English) it was reported that television presenter Marina Carrere d'Encausse, herself a doctor, said that the French government line that masks were only useful for carers was a "lie (told) for a good cause". To say that they just prevent the spread, and not the acquisition of pathogens is equally untrue. And more than one country is guilty.