Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: preschool, activities, teach)

[Franz12055]

Originally Posted by HJ99

Somebody needs a Spanish or Italian holiday!

You still have your full income, and a basement full of toilet paper.

Tell me I'm wrong! I'm I?

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by lrfox

Over 19,000 tested in MA now. Obviously 1,800+ confirmed cases and 15 deaths is nothing to scoff at, but a silver lining (in my eyes) is that fewer than 10% of people tested are testing positive. To contrast, as of yesterday (haven’t seen today’s numbers), about 1/3 of New York’s tests were positive. Hopefully continued social distancing will keep our numbers a bit lower.

Do we know the testing criteria and testing rate of each state? No sense in really concluding anything, until we know that stuff.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by Franz12055

Lets create the next great recession and have people commit suicide out of despair because we cant set up a bunch of tents with respirators in hospital parking lots like they did in South Korea.

The united states has lost its way. The Netherlands is trying out herd immunity approach while we coward in a corner and taking marching orders from Rachel Maddow.

What a shame.

That’s umm not working out for the Dutch. (They also have instituted a semi-lockdown now)

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by lrfox

Over 19,000 tested in MA now. Obviously 1,800+ confirmed cases and 15 deaths is nothing to scoff at, but a silver lining (in my eyes) is that fewer than 10% of people tested are testing positive. To contrast, as of yesterday (haven’t seen today’s numbers), about 1/3 of New York’s tests were positive. Hopefully continued social distancing will keep our numbers a bit lower.

Unfortunately as long as NY/SWCT is going crazy there basically is no way it doesn’t filter into Mass eventually. That’s why Berkshire has more cases than Hampden.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by Franz12055

The patronizing undertone suggest you give credit to ones opinion based on their LinkedIn profile, not at face value, perhaps because its beyond your intellectual capacity.

The way you slice and dice this is utterly irrelevant: unless you live in a cabin in Alaska, you'll get exposed. What now?

I value the opinions of people who can recognize complex systems are complex and parse data rationally (e.g., a lack of testing is not evidence we are not going parabolic). Whether they acquired their critical thinking at Harvard or on the shop floor is really irrelevant to me - I just care that they do.

[jetgraphics]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

We don't have the resources readily available as South Korea and other countries do. Masks and ventilators are in short supply because we as a nation never bothered to manufacture enough of them. And no, please don't bring up the "Bring back manufacturing to the U.S." argument because it will never happen. No American worker is willing to work for $5 an hour with no benefits and risk life and limb to manufacture something anymore, this is not 1890. Until something like that happens, manufacturing will stay overseas.

You are correct - as long as you accept the status quo.
Remember, the start of the long decline in American industry began with the "emergency" (1933). Let's use some common sense.

When you TAX something you raise its price, and reward its untaxed competitor.
Guess what happened when 'socialist' government levied a tax on labor and industry?
It raised the price (inflated).
And it drove more and more industries into unprofitability, collapse, or emigration.
. . .

Back in the "bad old days" of 1910, a worker might have been paid $1/day and had plenty to buy with that sum. Of course, the government's tax levy was under 1%, compared to 44% today (aggregate tax : local, state, and federal). Even pharaoh's serfs paid less (1 part in 5; 20%).
. . .
You can bring back manufacturing to the USA in a NY minute by simply ending ALL TAXES ON LABOR AND INDUSTRY.

No more benefit to hiring illegals. And with the end of all socialist freebies, any advantage to have "anchor babies" and suck at the public teat vanishes.
In fact, there will be a labor shortage and a demand for "guest workers."

Naw - never happen.
Folks are too smart to refuse free money (taken from their own pockets minus a cut for the management).

[Franz12055]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

... in short supply because we as a nation never bothered to manufacture enough of them. And no, please don't bring up the "Bring back manufacturing to the U.S." argument because it will never happen. No American worker is willing to work for $5 an hour with no benefits and risk life and limb to manufacture something anymore, this is not 1890. Until something like that happens, manufacturing will stay overseas.

BTW, who do you think are the real combatants in this crisis?

We actually used to make plenty of medical mask in the US, until relatively recently too. When Kimberly-Clark moved their production to China, all the others followed. All it would take is a simple law on essential services. Even you could write this bill. But heah, what are you gonna do, right?

Even federal grants my cie got from Barda came with no strings attached and as a results, 5M$ went straight from taxpayer to China. Now multiply this by the size of the US economy. And we're not talking about 5$/h here.

Fatality: its a state of mind. We CANT manufacture in the US anymore. Why? Because I heard this on TV for the past 20 years?

Just like overpopulation. We can't eat meat anymore because we wont be able to pack earth with 20 billions people. That's what Rachel Maddow says. So lets just stop eating meat then. Fatality.

How about questioning whether it makes sense for a country to be packed to the tune of 20000 people per sq/Km? Well, what you gonna do, right? Lets just lower everyone's standard of living because they want to be 2 or 3 freakin billions people over there. Now its our problem. And dont question any of this. What are you, racist?

And don't question China's government cover up of the virus. I mean, Rachel Maddow said its racist, so I guess risking 100K lives and sending the worlds economy into stone age is not worth even asking then.

Fatality. In the end, fatality is worst of a plague then this thing.

[DaIceman]

Originally Posted by r_p

I am 100 percent with you on this. A lot of the fear is irrational, mostly driven by social media.

This stuff is real, and shouldn't be taken lightly. A friend of a friend in Lynnfield died today from COVID-19.

https://www.itemlive.com/2020/03/25/...AbYYUU5xepVCUQ

[Bridge781]

I said two weeks ago that I was bothered by the #stayhome movement because it’s led by highly privileged people! SAHMs and people who work from home regularly are all for it. Of course they are! I admit at first I was happy to work from home because it is easier and I’m avoiding the train. I know that’s it’s not that Easy for everyone to just stay the hell at home. I certainly don’t see wait staff, bartenders, daycare owners all happy and serene about staying home.

I keeping that it has to be done and I’m following the rules but the cases keep going up

Just know that staying home isn’t easy for most people.

[charolastra00]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

I said two weeks ago that I was bothered by the #stayhome movement because it’s led by highly privileged people! SAHMs and people who work from home regularly are all for it. Of course they are! I admit at first I was happy to work from home because it is easier and I’m avoiding the train. I know that’s it’s not that Easy for everyone to just stay the hell at home. I certainly don’t see wait staff, bartenders, daycare owners all happy and serene about staying home.

I keeping that it has to be done and I’m following the rules but the cases keep going up

Just know that staying home isn’t easy for most people.

The cases that are being diagnosed now likely were infected a week or two ago.



The people being hospitalized are by and large people who were infected more than 2 weeks ago.


It takes time for quarantine to work, and even then, the more people don't abide by it, the more it will spread (not to mention spreading - though more slowly - in essential businesses).