Coronavirus in Massachusetts (governor, common, independent)

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

In Massachusetts I am willing to wait until June. But in other states I can't see how it makes any sense to keep people in their homes where they hardly have any cases.

Uh, why do you think some other states have hardly any cases??? Because we started distancing BEFORE it got a chance to spread at a high rate! What kind of sane person would put their guard down when it's still out of control in neighboring states, assuming there is no travel ban between those states?

[Bridge781]

I’m hoping the heat helps kill this virus.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

you assumed i did not understand that you did not want people from high populated areas with a high amount of cases coming into your rural area spreading the virus I understood that fully.

Not what you said before.

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

I told you that govenors can not even LIMIT the amount of people at a religous ceremony. This falls into the first amendment for freedom of religion and the right to assemble. The govenors have made a ton of voilations to the bill of rights. if anyone was has a problem with reading comprehension its you with your thick head. the moderators will not do anything about your insults i have reported you so i will not hold back at throwing punches at you.

You made a false claim that ALL religious gatherings were banned, and I proved you wrong. But you are wrong once again, and the courts disagree with you as do the Attorneys General of all 50 states. I guess you understand the Bill of Rights better than they do?

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

you will say but people are endangering others health. If the person does not know he or she has a virus then its not knowingly endangering lives. If the person knows they have corona virus then yes they are knowingly endangering others. Those people are willing to take the risk of getting sick by going to church and its their god given right. It is up to the church not the govement to have common sense at taking precautions. They are micromanaging with govermental powers and to me it feels like we are already in a police state when the national guard goes door to door of houses for a virus that has not even killed the same amount as the common flu. they should of selectively quarentened people instead of this broad lets assume everyone has the virus . even though scientifically anyone could have it the bill of rights is more important to preserve.

Because people in the field who are a lot smarter than you or I, have determined that due to the nature of this virus we are all assumed carriers unless proven otherwise and that not taking proper precautions is reckless behavior that is potentially dangerous to others. In turn, state governments are granted an enormous amount of power under the US Constitution to do what is necessary in addressing major threats to public health. That includes crowd limiting.

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

In Michigan you can not buy seeds for a garden or gardening tools why? Some think they dont want people to be self sufficeint by growing their own food that they want people to rely on the goverment. Even if that is not the case why no garden seeds? talk about micromanaging goverment.

Because they have ruled that human life is more important than your friggin garden. Go figure...

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

The government is horrible at keeping people safe.

That's certainly open for debate, but something tells me if they let this grow more out of control and your mother was in her death bed; you would be the first person out there saying "why didn't they do more to protect us!".

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

This video explains if the person knows they have the virus then they are responsible for endandgering others if the person has no knowledge of them having the virus then they can not be found at fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKs3E4w4Uw

No but they can be found at fault for violating orders issued by state and local governments that were implemented to prevent the spread of a contagious disease.

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

So what govenor Cuomo is doing is giving suggestions in the disguise of orders. There will be no prosecution for not following his suggestions. His suggestions are unconstitutional but are only suggestions not orders as the video explains.

A "suggestion" is unconstitutional??? Oh man I learn something new every day.

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

try to put politics aside on this one this is a Judge who knows the laws. There is a gun shop refusing to shut down buisness in massechusetts and they are not doing anything about it because all this is just suggestions disguised as orders.

It has nothing to do with politics bro, it is you trying to turn it into that.

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

As mentioned in the video I will give a link why govenors can not shut down buisness because a state can not interfere with CONTRACTS. So NO a state has no legal authority to shut down any buisness because its a violation of the contract a buisness has.. So that means they can not shut down bars or restaurants.

Huh??? For one, businesses can be shut down for a variety of reasons. Two, restaurants are not being forced to be shut down, but TEMPORARILY required to refrain from dine-in service in the midst of a public health crisis.





Bottom line, is this is all about YOU and the fact that you can't get a damn haircut right now. There are a whole lot of people who'd be happy to trade place with you right now, I promise.

[western mass and love it]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

I’m hoping the heat helps kill this virus.

Heat hasn’t bothered the virus in Florida.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by western mass and love it

Heat hasn’t bothered the virus in Florida.

Deaths per 1 million population is much lower in California and Florida than any of the other top 10 states.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

I’m hoping the heat helps kill this virus.

I wish this were true...but no scientific data backing this up unfortunately.

[brightdoglover]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

I’m hoping the heat helps kill this virus.

Not the case at all. Witness the spreads in hot countries.

[BostonMike7]

More evidence that this virus is everywhere already.

NY tested 3K people that were out and about and found 14% already had antibodies for it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...cid=spartanntp

[Bridge781]

Ok I guess we’ll have a crappy summer then.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

More evidence that this virus is everywhere already.

NY tested 3K people that were out and about and found 14% already had antibodies for it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ne...cid=spartanntp

Here is the part that blows your mind...

Reuters) - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Thursday a screening of 3,000 residents found that 13.9 percent tested positive for antibodies for the novel coronavirus, suggesting that some 2.7 million people across the state may have been infected.

We need to head back to work asap.