Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston, Florida: colors, home, schools)

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by yesmaybe

Exactly, that's why it's so obvious the slow playing is intentional.

Uh, no. This was from September...before any approvals even...bragging about how quickly the vaccine was going to be distributed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXDCPo0ZG0w

[mdovell]

Anytime the federal government as States and local governments to do something you have to provide some form of funding. Local governments are already doing things and ask them to do more without compensation is not going to work. Even if a town receives funding you'd still have to have hiring to get people hired and to authorize overtime.

Like I said earlier there are some places where it should be easier to simply just bring people to the vaccines rather than vaccines to the people. There are many small towns across the state and across the country where you literally have maybe a handful of people and a health department and that's it. Sure there's a Board of Health that might be elected or appointed but those are largely on paid and are not tasked with having such a responsibility.

We already had a brain drain from government well before covid-19. It. Most funding in a town generally goes towards a school side portion, not health. You can't just take a town accountant and make them a health agent, just like you can't take us Town Clerk and make them the head of facilities, or take the head of a teachers union and make them in charge of vehicle maintenance etc. Of course there's always unions involved in this so you have to negotiate specifically who is going to do what if it over reaches a boundary.

Anybody advocating that we can just hand this off the private sector without any form of a bid is unfounded. Emergencies don't change the laws.

From what I've been reading about Governor Baker is that we haven't had any shortage or distribution issues Massachusetts but I can imagine there were plenty of other areas that didn't take this seriously and as a result they don't have a real comprehensive plan for distribution

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Anytime the federal government as States and local governments to do something you have to provide some form of funding. Local governments are already doing things and ask them to do more without compensation is not going to work. Even if a town receives funding you'd still have to have hiring to get people hired and to authorize overtime.

Like I said earlier there are some places where it should be easier to simply just bring people to the vaccines rather than vaccines to the people. There are many small towns across the state and across the country where you literally have maybe a handful of people and a health department and that's it. Sure there's a Board of Health that might be elected or appointed but those are largely on paid and are not tasked with having such a responsibility.

We already had a brain drain from government well before covid-19. It. Most funding in a town generally goes towards a school side portion, not health. You can't just take a town accountant and make them a health agent, just like you can't take us Town Clerk and make them the head of facilities, or take the head of a teachers union and make them in charge of vehicle maintenance etc. Of course there's always unions involved in this so you have to negotiate specifically who is going to do what if it over reaches a boundary.

Anybody advocating that we can just hand this off the private sector without any form of a bid is unfounded. Emergencies don't change the laws.

From what I've been reading about Governor Baker is that we haven't had any shortage or distribution issues Massachusetts but I can imagine there were plenty of other areas that didn't take this seriously and as a result they don't have a real comprehensive plan for distribution

Not sure how it works in Mass. at the moment, but in Maine all pharmacy techs have been deemed capable of administering the vaccine. Getting it to the small towns is a non-issue.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Anytime the federal government as States and local governments to do something you have to provide some form of funding. Local governments are already doing things and ask them to do more without compensation is not going to work.

And one of the things the state/local governments should be doing is planning and preparing for emergencies, including those of a public health nature, long before one occurs. They already get funding for this through FEMA and a variety of other mechanisms. Believe it or not, the federal government "is already doing things" too. If a state doesn't have funding they are required to make a request for such funding, not just open their mouths like a baby bird in the nest. But at the end of the day it would be nice if state officials are also held accountable for why they are unprepared fiscally or otherwise, since many are also the ones who are wreaking economic havoc. Of course they won't be, because they put on such great theater.

[bizcuit]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

My wife has told me this has been her most difficult year of teaching. She is in classroom, and has been juggling remote teaching for some students as well on top of that. She works more hours than I do now and has frequently been working well into the evening to prep the remote work students for the next day. Parents never see the prep work that goes into preparing for a day of teaching. It’s to the point where she’s been the most stressed I’ve ever seen her. All she wants to do is go back to normal.

I don’t know a single teacher who is enjoying this school year.

This is what I've been hearing as well and what I was trying to get at with my post. To call teacher lazy and to put them down during this time is very disrespectful to what they are going through.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by bizcuit

This is what I've been hearing as well and what I was trying to get at with my post. To call teacher lazy and to put them down during this time is very disrespectful to what they are going through.

Far milder than what has been happening to police.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by bizcuit

This is what I've been hearing as well and what I was trying to get at with my post. To call teacher lazy and to put them down during this time is very disrespectful to what they are going through.

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Far milder than what has been happening to police.

Kind of the same thing though, and similarly always coming from those who wouldn't make it through one day in either's shoes.

[bizcuit]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Far milder than what has been happening to police.

But we're talking about teachers. Just because some group or another may have it worse (I don't know if they do), does not invalidate the challenges of the first group. Sheesh.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by bizcuit

But we're talking about teachers.

You are talking about teachers, and you've been hyperbolically dramatic about a few comments on a web board about laziness. I provided a little bit of perspective.

Originally Posted by bizcuit

Just because some group or another may have it worse (I don't know if they do), does not invalidate the challenges of the first group. Sheesh.

Yeah, okay. Which rock do you live under?

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Kind of the same thing though, and similarly always coming from those who wouldn't make it through one day in either's shoes.

I agree.