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Old 05-20-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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I'll disagree with one point--the elective surgeries are already starting to take place..
Yes, the elective surgeries are probably the surgeries that were supposed to take place sometime in early March. I know my husband's surgery has already been put off several times and it's a serious operation but I guess they were only taking emergencies.
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Old 05-20-2020, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod/Green Valley AZ
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He is a jew that ratted out his neighbors to the nazi's . He admits it in interviews. He is a evil man.

he pretended to not be jewish to save his life. he turned on his own people. they asked him if he felt guilty about it and he said no.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGWizajL7tA

the german occupation was the happiest time of his life!! he admits it.
He was born in 1930, so his "crimes" were committed between the ages of 11 and 15. A real juvenile delinquent.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:04 PM
 
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He was born in 1930, so his "crimes" were committed between the ages of 11 and 15. A real juvenile delinquent.
Ya i guess you could say he cant be held accountable at that age but the point is when he got much older he never felt any guilt for what he did.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:27 PM
 
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I'll disagree with one point--the elective surgeries are already starting to take place..
There’s a difference between the state allowing elective surgery and people flocking to the hospital to get procedures done. My girlfriend has an office in a hospital. She’s working remote and the half of her staff that isn’t furloughed across a bunch of hospitals is working remote. If a large hospital holding company doesn’t think it’s safe for non-essential employees to be in the building, do you think people are rushing into hospitals to get elective things like colonoscopies that can easily be deferred? Hospital revenue is going to be in the toilet as long as there are COVID-19 patients. No matter how you isolate them, it’s going to be impossible to dispel that plague ship image.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Dripping Springs, Texas
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. he never felt any guilt for what he did.
You don't have any clue what Soros did or didn't do 75 years ago and you're not qualified in any way to be his judge or jury. Another in a long line of nut job right wing conspiracy theories.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:40 PM
 
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...My girlfriend has an office in a hospital. She’s working remote and the half of her staff that isn’t furloughed across a bunch of hospitals is working remote. If a large hospital holding company doesn’t think it’s safe for non-essential employees to be in the building, do you think people are rushing into hospitals to get elective things like colonoscopies that can easily be deferred? ...

I think the idea is to have as few people available to be making contact as is reasonably possible, not that the remote workers can't be in the building because it's not safe. That said, I had the same thought that the hospital where I'm getting a sleep apnea study done Friday was too full of COVID for me to feel okay. I found out casually that there is sufficient PPE, the COVID wing is being closed down for lack of need and is separate from the regular beds, etc. etc. Also that, while a sleep study might well be elective and able to be postponed, the effects of untreated apnea could be very dire. I've gone to the dentist, had an audiology check and chiropractic treatment since realizing this is the new normal and everything is being done for proper precautions in the circumstance.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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So do we trust what the CDC is saying or the fact that it is newsworthy. Look at all of those news articles, it's almost always cited as "rare".

More US children ill from rare syndrome with possible link to coronavirus

Coronavirus: Children affected by rare Kawasaki-like disease

Doctors in Italy make a link between Covid-19 and rare 'Kawasaki-like' inflammatory disease in children

I'm not trying to deny that the syndrome is real or that it isn't important to know about. It's just important not overstate the danger. The evidence is that this is a rare syndrome. You get to pull the fire alarm once, maybe twice, without a real fire before people start ignoring the fire alarm. There is already social distancing fatigue.
I am 73, I have never in my life seen my fellow citizens take this attitude that the death of 100 children or a few thousand seniors is ok if it means the difference between me staying home or being able to have my nails done or go to the gym. It's depressing that we have so little ability to empathize with or care about others. I'm not sure how we got here or how this can be changed, it's just sad.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Ya i guess you could say he cant be held accountable at that age but the point is when he got much older he never felt any guilt for what he did.
He did what he did to stay alive. Now we have US citizens saying we shouldn't worry about people dying from Covid because our "freedom" trumps their right to live.
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I am 73, I have never in my life seen my fellow citizens take this attitude that the death of 100 children or a few thousand seniors is ok if it means the difference between me staying home or being able to have my nails done or go to the gym. It's depressing that we have so little ability to empathize with or care about others. I'm not sure how we got here or how this can be changed, it's just sad.
Just wondering- do you know how many children die per year of any number of any other causes? It's quite a lot more, I hate to say. If this is really your logic, you should have NEVER left your home your entire life. And even then, you aren't doing enough, because kids die in the thousands every year regardless.
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:20 PM
 
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I think the idea is to have as few people available to be making contact as is reasonably possible, not that the remote workers can't be in the building because it's not safe. That said, I had the same thought that the hospital where I'm getting a sleep apnea study done Friday was too full of COVID for me to feel okay. I found out casually that there is sufficient PPE, the COVID wing is being closed down for lack of need and is separate from the regular beds, etc. etc. Also that, while a sleep study might well be elective and able to be postponed, the effects of untreated apnea could be very dire. I've gone to the dentist, had an audiology check and chiropractic treatment since realizing this is the new normal and everything is being done for proper precautions in the circumstance.
Sure, but you can do a home sleep study like most of the rest of the first world does. You don’t need a sleep study in a sleep center for garden variety obstructive sleep apnea. The machines have a cellular data modem in them. They can watch every breath remotely. Same for a pulse oximeter. They ship you one with Bluetooth and the widget with the cellular data modem to relay the data. You only need the sleep center if what you have is more complex than vanilla obstructive sleep apnea.
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