Coronavirus in Massachusetts (middle school, discount, households)

[charolastra00]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

Today's update.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-da...-2020/download

Some deaths that should have been listed today, were instead listed yesterday. (129 yesterday). Reporting error


870 new cases, 33 deaths.

Still good news. Once they're normalized, it looks like we've likely dropped under 100 daily deaths reported.


Hospitalizations are slightly up by 25 today, and the percent positive of testing is up a little too. Overall, though, the trend keeps going down.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by charolastra00

Still good news. Once they're normalized, it looks like we've likely dropped under 100 daily deaths reported.


Hospitalizations are slightly up by 25 today, and the percent positive of testing is up a little too. Overall, though, the trend keeps going down.

I agree...this would be the first silver lining we've seen in a long time. It's telling that MA & CT are the last 2 states to reopen...it's because we have a state government that is driven by the data!

[Bridge781]

That’s great. I hope this trend keeps up.

A bit unsettling about all the reports of covid 19 in kids now though.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

That’s great. I hope this trend keeps up.

A bit unsettling about all the reports of covid 19 in kids now though.

These reports are, quite frankly, irresponsible and largely speculative. It's really shocking how this is being passed off.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2766037

"Finally, it is important to emphasize that the overall burden of COVID-19 infection in children remains relatively low compared with seasonal influenza. As of April 28, 2020, the CDC report 8 deaths in children 14 years or younger related to COVID-19 infection, whereas there have so far been 169 influenza-related deaths in children 14 years or younger during the 2019-2020 season, with 81 of these occurring in 2020.14,15 Thus, up to this time of the pandemic in North America, children continue to face a far greater risk of critical illness from influenza than from COVID-19, pointing to the imperative for ongoing preventive pediatric health maintenance during this time."

[Bridge781]

Ive seen that there are 4 kids at Boston children’s being hospitalized with these covid related illnesses. Concerning but not quite alarming for the moment I guess.

[brightdoglover]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Ive seen that there are 4 kids at Boston children’s being hospitalized with these covid related illnesses. Concerning but not quite alarming for the moment I guess.

It's certainly, well, something. The numbers aren't very high but the illnesses are very severe. There's a local family near me whose son was born with this kind of autoimmune derangement- has cytokine storms in flares- and is very very vulnerable to worse effects.

I don't know how schools can reopen for children if people have gotten accustomed to the idea that children are never affected. This virus is not going to go away or be eradicated and the current situation seems rather untenable for so many people.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

Ive seen that there are 4 kids at Boston children’s being hospitalized with these covid related illnesses. Concerning but not quite alarming for the moment I guess.

Can we say how many are in for influenza? The fatality rate for children with influenza is many many times higher (though both are incredibly low).

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by bjimmy24

These reports are, quite frankly, irresponsible and largely speculative.

Fauci believes otherwise and is urging caution about reopening schools in the fall.

As cases of rare COVID-linked illness in kids rise, Fauci warns much remains unknown

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by redplum33

Fauci believes otherwise and is urging caution about reopening schools in the fall.

As cases of rare COVID-linked illness in kids rise, Fauci warns much remains unknown

I would definitely recommend reading the studies from journals that I've posted. These are by people doing the experimentation and painstakingly documenting the results, not holders of political office or anything parallel to them.

Fauci said "much remains unknown" which doesn't really mean anything at all. I interpret "unknown" as "unconfirmed" which is absolutely true. What Fauci did not do was put together any type of hypothesis, experiment, nor draw any conclusions from them and publish them. He makes offhand comments on TV which NBC reports on. It is just not comparable.

I think many people are failing to assess risk and blowing many things, but especially this child thing, out of proportion. I think people might be surprised to learn what the overall death rate of all causes for children 1-14 actually is: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/child-health.htm

[redplum33]

"Dr. Anthony Fauci had a sharp retort for Sen. Rand Paul after the Kentucky Republican said that Fauci was not the “end all” in knowledge about the coronavirus, and that it’s “kind of ridiculous” to suggest children should be kept out of school in the fall.

While agreeing that children on the whole do much better than adults with COVID-19, Fauci noted recent reports of severe disease among children and said it’s still really not well understood.

“We don’t know everything about this virus and we really better be pretty careful, particularly when it comes to children,” Fauci said. “I think we better be careful (that) we are not cavalier in thinking that children are completely immune from the deleterious effects.” "


Source: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-fauci-warns-u-s-must-not-be-cavalier-in-assuming-children-immune-to-virus