[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

They changed it back, now it's rain Wed. thru Fri. but nice all next weekend (does that mean the Dec. 19th storm is gone?)......but (yeah Wave, start salivating) temperatures back into the 50s from Wed. on......


Wouldn't it be funny if after the Oct. snowstorm not even a trace/flurry falls through December? (NOTE: Not even a T in Dec. is extremely rare.....using Central Park (again, just for the historical record and it's probably a tiny bit less rare than it is in CT for that matter) it looks like it only happened in 1877 and 2006).

Yes, it’s a nice pattern for those who like to be outside. For me, as long as the sun is out and it’s dry, anything over 40 F is tolerable. Of course each degree above 40 F it just gets better…and low 50’s in mid December is certainly nice. At least we are finally getting an ABOVE normal December for a change: Last December (2010) was below normal…December 2009 was colder than normal….December 2008 was colder than normal. Last December by the 5th, we were already getting days that struggled to get out of the 30’s. We forget, but the normal December high at NWS Bridgeport is 42.5 F….and for Central Park its 44 F.

Yes, it would be very ironic that after a late Oct snow, we had no snow in December at all. Also, while less than a trace (T) at Central Park is rare (at least since 1869)….insignificant December snowfall is not at all uncommon in the Tri-State area. Since 1869, Central Park had 17 Decembers when only a trace was reported….and 22 Decembers when less than 1 inch was measured at CP.

In any event, I hope things stay nice until December 26 at least, after that I’ll be in Ft. Lauderdale for a week. The Atlantic is 81 F off southeast Florida currently

[andthentherewere3]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

Wouldn't it be funny if after the Oct. snowstorm not even a trace/flurry falls through December? (NOTE: Not even a T in Dec. is extremely rare.....using Central Park (again, just for the historical record and it's probably a tiny bit less rare than it is in CT for that matter) it looks like it only happened in 1877 and 2006).

Where I live in upper Fairfield County, a "trace" (less than an inch) of snow is not uncommon in December. It was just two- three years ago that we cut our tree down after a light dusting of snow overnight, it was perfect. I can think of numerous December days over the years when we had just a little snow, it would be more unusual not to see a little snow now and then during December where I live. We almost always get more snow than those along the shoreline and in NYC. I always wonder why some of the snow lovers here (like Cambium) live along the shoreline----you'd see a lot more action further north.


What he said.

Originally Posted by wavehunter007

Also, while less than a trace (T) at Central Park is rare (at least since 1869)….insignificant December snowfall is not at all uncommon in the Tri-State area.

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by andthentherewere3

I always wonder why some of the snow lovers here (like Cambium) live along the shoreline----you'd see a lot more action further north.

LOL - I wonder the same thing but my elevation is almost 300 feet. Shoreline elevation is 20 feet, plus you got all that semi urban heat down there. Thats why I got 6" of snow in October and the coast got less than 4. But yeah, I agree...I need to be North more.

Friend of mine lives 900' above sea level and he still had snow and ice on the roof yesterday from the last storm.

Sometimes I wish more people post here that live in different spots just to get a better perspective. Its always nice to hear whats happening out there because right now we only rely on what nearest stations are telling us. We have to assume anywhere above 1000' are experiencing different senarios.

In fact, you gave me an idea for a new poll here. :-)

[7 Wishes]

Just to not confuse anyone, I was noting that not getting ANY snow in Dec. is rare, I realize that getting just a trace in Dec. is not really rare (or even say an inch or less for the month). And again, would be really ironic after the October snow (especially since there wasn't even a trace in November either, which in and of itself is not unusual though).

[Cambium]

Hope everyone is enjoying the dry day and blue skies. Should stay like this for next few days. Warm up coming again.

NWS is saying Snow Wednesday Night change to rain.. It's just lingering moisture from a Storm going into great lakes. Very little moisture. I dont see it happening because models showing it too warm but secondary roads could get slick for interior. Flurries if anything.

Here's their text... National Weather Service Text Product Display

ANY PRECIPITATION THAT OCCURS WEDNESDAY NIGHT WILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO START OUT AS SNOW OR A WINTRY MIX...ESPECIALLY INLAND. ALL PRECIPITATION CHANGES TO RAIN ON THURSDAY AS THE AREA GETS INTO THE WARM SECTOR. .... RAIN CUTS OFF BEHIND THE FRONT...LEAVING BLUSTERY NORTHWEST FLOW ACROSS THE AREA ON SATURDAY.

Next time frame for a Big storm is 19-21 & 23-25.

Latest CPC 8-14day forecast has the Big A above us.

Keep in mind folks... Normals are now 20s and 30s so any temperature in the 40s will be considered "Above"

[Cambium]

Originally Posted by wavehunter007

Looking ahead right now…I don’t see anything even close to below normal temps for the next month. .

Hartford Normal temp for today = 41. Todays High was 38. Bridgeport Normal = 44, todays high was 41. Even NYC Normal = 44, todays high was 39. 3-5 degrees below normal. Now we go back to seasonable temps after one more night of below normal lows.

[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Hope everyone is enjoying the dry day and blue skies. Should stay like this for next few days. Warm up coming again.

NWS is saying Snow Wednesday Night change to rain.. It's just lingering moisture from a Storm going into great lakes. Very little moisture. I dont see it happening because models showing it too warm but secondary roads could get slick for interior. Flurries if anything.

Here's their text... National Weather Service Text Product Display



Next time frame for a Big storm is 19-21 & 23-25.

Latest CPC 8-14day forecast has the Big A above us.

Keep in mind folks... Normals are now 20s and 30s so any temperature in the 40s will be considered "Above"

Keep in mind that the "normals" for December highs at NWS stations like Bridgeport are 42.5 F and at Central Park 44 F.

However, yes, after a cool day today...once again another long moderation is in store for the Tri-State area. By weeks end highs will be near 50 F in many areas of the region. Yes, it looks like a mostly rain on Wed, or maybe wet snow changing to rain on Wed/Thur morning.

Another interesting thing to consider; It looks like most of the local area might be running out of time to see a white XMASS. If this low on Wed/Thur fails to produce snow, this could be the last real shot of snow on the ground before Dec 25th from what it looks like.

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[Cambium]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Keep in mind folks... Normals are now 20s and 30s so any temperature in the 40s will be considered "Above"

*Correction on above statement*.. I made a mistake putting 20s there...There are no 20s for normals anywhere(maybe Canada)... But point is we can be in the upper 30s and mid 40s and that will be considered "above" normal..

Burlington, VT Normal= 35.
Worchester, MA = 35
Hartford, CT = 41

[Cambium]

Well, I still dont see anything significant next 10 days. Light rain for Thursday but then high pressure movbes in and will be dry Again with normal temps going slightly above to mid 40s.

Light precip around the 19th.(Still not 100%)

Maybe light stuff for the 25th.(Too soon, models continue to change everything with each update)

For this week Upton still has frozen precip to start.

NORTHERN ZONES COULD SEE FREEZING RAIN
OR POSSIBLY SLEET EARLY THURSDAY MORNING AT THE ONSET OF THE
PRECIPITATION. THIS WILL QUICKLY CHANGE OVER TO RAIN WITH THE
TEMPERATURES RISING.

[wavehunter007]

Originally Posted by Cambium

*Correction on above statement*.. I made a mistake putting 20s there...There are no 20s for normals anywhere(maybe Canada)... But point is we can be in the upper 30s and mid 40s and that will be considered "above" normal..

Burlington, VT Normal= 35.
Worchester, MA = 35
Hartford, CT = 41

Not real sure what the normal highs in Burlington, VT – 300 miles north of Connecticut/NYC has to do with us . 300 miles to the south of us the normal high in Virginia Beach, VA is 53 F (lol).

The point I think was that all NWS stations in the Tri-State area (Bridgeport, Hartford, NYC, Trenton, Atlantic City, Islip...etc) have normal highs in the low to mid 40’s in December. So any day (not that I’m complaining of late) that falls to crack 42 – 43 F is below normal for us. To get normal highs in the 30’s one must go north into New England, the Great lakes, or the Upper Midwest/Mt West:

Otherwise, it looks like some precip on Wed/Thur , which at this point looks like rain.


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