[robr2]

Originally Posted by BPt111

Massachusetts now Vermont no CT. CT would had 500 million to 1 billion extra in revenue

"Vermont became the ninth U.S. state and third in the Northeast to legalize recreational marijuana use on Monday when Republican Governor Phil Scott signed a bill passed by the legislature earlier this month. The law legalizes possession of up to 1 ounce of the drug, two mature plants and up to four immature plants by people 21 and older beginning on July 1. It does not legalize trade in the drug."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ow/1056869001/

Note, VT doesn't legalize sale, only use so there isn't any revenue coming in to the state.

[robr2]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

When "Blue Back Square" went up in West Hartford it created a permanent shadow on one side of the street "Raymond Rd" I think is the name. Imagine if you lived in that shadow.

It's a four story building. I doubt the shadows are that oppressive.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

When "Blue Back Square" went up in West Hartford it created a permanent shadow on one side of the street "Raymond Rd" I think is the name. Imagine if you lived in that shadow.

Generally speaking, zoning regs in CT are used as a segregation tool. We can't have poor people pouring into Glastonbury, Avon, or even West Hartford.

I think you are talking about Memorial Road which is an east-west road that goes through the middle of Blue Back Square. The five story buildings on the south side of the road cast a shadow all day long across the street. That said though, the height of those buildings are no more than was already allowed in West Hartford Center. There are a couple of buildings on Farmington Avenue that are seven stories tall.

As for zoning, I do not agree that it is there for segregation. It is there for the orderly and controlled development of a town. There is low-income housing in towns like West Hartford and Glastonbury and has been for decades now. The ones in Glastonbury date back to World War II. Sorry but without strong zoning laws, Connecticut would look like New Jersey or Texas, overrun by buildings and development that would destroy the state's character. Jay

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by robr2

It's a four story building. I doubt the shadows are that oppressive.

Those buildings are five stories and because of their orientation, they do block the sun from reaching the street for most of the day. It is particularly noticeable during the winter when the sun hangs low in the sky. This was a known issue when the project was approved but no one was concerned enough to change the design. Most people do not even notice it. Jay

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by JayCT

As for zoning, I do not agree that it is there for segregation. It is there for the orderly and controlled development of a town. There is low-income housing in towns like West Hartford and Glastonbury and has been for decades now. The ones in Glastonbury date back to World War II. Sorry but without strong zoning laws, Connecticut would look like New Jersey or Texas, overrun by buildings and development that would destroy the state's character. Jay

Socioeconomic segregation is absolutely one of the fallouts of zoning regulations. Zoning limits population density. There are a very limited number of towns with top school systems. You mostly can't build high density housing in those towns so only white collar professionals can afford to buy there. That keeps the gold-plated school system gold-plated since there's such a high correlation between educational/professional level of parents and overall results in the public schools.

West Hartford is a socioeconomically mixed town. You can't say that about the 'burbs to the west of West Hartford. I'm from a socioeconomically mixed town with affluent people on the coast and the gentleman farm rural part of town, lower middle class in small starter homes, and a chunk of multifamily city-style housing stock bordering the failed city next door. I think that's largely a good thing.

[JayCT]

Wow! This is interesting news that we have not heard in a LONG time. Connecticut's economy was among the fastest growing in the country (8th) in the third quarter of 2017??? Could we finally be making the improvements other states have seen already? Is this just like other economic downturns where Connecticut is late in recovering? We will see if it is sustained. Jay

Feds: Connecticut economy surges in Q3 - Connecticut Post

[Mike 75]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Wow! This is interesting news that we have not heard in a LONG time. Connecticut's economy was among the fastest growing in the country (8th) in the third quarter of 2017??? Could we finally be making the improvements other states have seen already? Is this just like other economic downturns where Connecticut is late in recovering? We will see if it is sustained. Jay

Feds: Connecticut economy surges in Q3 - Connecticut Post

Certainly good news. Its about time.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Wow! This is interesting news that we have not heard in a LONG time. Connecticut's economy was among the fastest growing in the country (8th) in the third quarter of 2017??? Could we finally be making the improvements other states have seen already? Is this just like other economic downturns where Connecticut is late in recovering? We will see if it is sustained. Jay

Feds: Connecticut economy surges in Q3 - Connecticut Post

Hopefully

[East of the River]

While I don't agree alot with strong towns I think Hierarchial zoning may work in parts of CT.
https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/...rchical-zoning

[beerbeer]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Wow! This is interesting news that we have not heard in a LONG time. Connecticut's economy was among the fastest growing in the country (8th) in the third quarter of 2017??? Could we finally be making the improvements other states have seen already? Is this just like other economic downturns where Connecticut is late in recovering? We will see if it is sustained. Jay

Feds: Connecticut economy surges in Q3 - Connecticut Post

That can be explained in two words, Trump Effect. A lot of it is Trump kicking the sequester to the curb and increasing U.S. military spending especially in Groton. The rest is the overall ramping up of USA GDP to levels over 3% which helps everyone including Connecticut.