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Old 12-26-2022, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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New Haven is still rough city seen better days now but it have Yale help the city image and some areas are getting clean up. Downtown New Haven is nice it kinda like Providence but the city have access to NYC which helps last stop on Metro North, Amtrak to Boston, NYC, DC, Philly, Bmore. Wooster Square and East Rock are gentrifying areas in New Haven it home of famous pizza places and well kept homes.

Bridgeport gain population because lower income got priced out of Norwalk and Stamford they move to Bridgeport and Waterbury areas. The city saw lower income Mount Vernon, Yonkers, New Rochelle, Bronx, Harlem, Brooklyn residents moving in as well because they want to be close to city but need affordability. Downtown area is showing improvements.

Hartford doesn’t have much nice areas like Bridgeport and New Haven besides Downtown, West End, southern edges of the city


It is like lower income Boston residents got price out they move to Brockton, New Bedford, Fall River, Lawrence, Providence, Worcester, Lynn etc
I personally don't think New Haven is as rough as many other New England cities in terms of what it offer and how it looks. Its not a thriving city or a wealthy city but its certainly much better to live than in Lawrence Waterbury or Hartford. Or even Woonsocket or Fitchburg. It's much more well-rounded and complete. And has a middle class that isn't just holdover townie families from 60 years ago/mostly elderly as is the case in MANY New England cities.

New Haven with Yale, the gentrification that is seeing, the Metro North, and its downtown is in a decent spot.

The southern edge of Hartford is still poor even if it looks suburban. Its not very nice. I'm very familiar with all of those neighborhoods. Your eright Bridgeport has more area that feels middle-class oor at least appears that way. And its more occupied than Hartford. Harford and Springfield are two New England cities that despite the new Casino and New Ballpark/Hotel just arent on the up and up. Hartford is much more violent though. Maybe becaue eits more urban and depressing.Its a bit of a mystery why the gunplay and homicide s so high there relative to New Haven and Springfield. But it is a serious gang city- thats probably it.
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Old 12-26-2022, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I personally don't think New Haven is as rough as many other New England cities in terms of what it offer and how it looks. Its not a thriving city or a wealthy city but its certainly much better to live than in Lawrence Waterbury or Hartford. Or even Woonsocket or Fitchburg. It's much more well-rounded and complete. And has a middle class that isn't just holdover townie families from 60 years ago/mostly elderly as is the case in MANY New England cities.

New Haven with Yale, the gentrification that is seeing, the Metro North, and its downtown is in a decent spot.

The southern edge of Hartford is still poor even if it looks suburban. Its not very nice. I'm very familiar with all of those neighborhoods. Your eright Bridgeport has more area that feels middle-class oor at least appears that way. And its more occupied than Hartford. Harford and Springfield are two New England cities that despite the new Casino and New Ballpark/Hotel just arent on the up and up. Hartford is much more violent though. Maybe becaue eits more urban and depressing.Its a bit of a mystery why the gunplay and homicide s so high there relative to New Haven and Springfield. But it is a serious gang city- thats probably it.


It far away from NYC and Boston to avoid the clean up New Haven have Yale, Metro North, access to NYC so homicides not going be that high in New Haven. If you look at Jersey City and Newark homicides been trending down due to NYC influence.
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Old 12-26-2022, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Your absolutely right, we need a new demographic in Hartford. I would say, like I have been saying, CT needs to attract young people. The State of Connecticut needs to invest a little bit more into Hartford. Lots of empty parking lots too.
The State of CT is working on revitalization. One example is the Communities Challenge Grant program (+statewide ADU and TOD legalization) and the "Find Your Vibe" tourist campaigns. Total refresh from Malloy with Lamont - the guy who made his money bringing MTV to college campuses and by far the coolest governor in New England (like a rich uncle who genuinely likes people). There is also a possible middle class income tax cut on the table too. So lots of good momentum - we just need to sustain it.

The governor has also appointed millenials to key positions such as the Head of Econ. Development. We also have pretty young incoming State Treasurer and Comptroller electeds.

https://portal.ct.gov/DECD/Content/B...hallenge-Grant

https://www.ctvisit.com/

https://twitter.com/ErickRussellCT/s...203138/photo/1

(guys on the left and right of this photo)


Hartford Related:

https://portal.ct.gov/Office-of-the-...unity-Vibrancy

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https://www.courant.com/community/ha...rqm-story.html

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Old 12-26-2022, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Hartford 39/32.23 (up from 34 in '21)

Bridgeport 18/12.16 (down from 20 in '21)

New Haven 13/9.63 (down from 25 in '21)
Boston 41/6.26 (up from 36 in '21)

Providence 9/4.74 (down from 22 in '21)
Worcester 7/3.4 (up from 6 in '21)

Hartford is waaayyy ahead of everyone else in scale. New Haven and Providence saw precipitous drops, any idea why?
Screw Hartford, we know it's bad. WTH happened to Boston? The poster boy of safe urban cities lol?
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Old 12-26-2022, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Screw Hartford, we know it's bad. WTH happened to Boston? The poster boy of safe urban cities lol?
5 really isn’t a huge number in the grand scheme of things. Not to discount anything, anyone… but it’s not a huge difference
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Old 12-26-2022, 10:30 PM
 
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Birmingham 144
Bham Metro 192
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Old 12-27-2022, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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With the little data made public by the city of Miami, the city has seen 52 homicides in 2022. One article says the city saw 20 between Jan 1-June 30th + crime map says 32 between July 1st-December 25th. This is more than 2021 but less than 2020.

So 52 homicides using their last estimated population of 439,890 = 11.82/100,000

Island of Montreal is at 39, which is a 10 year high. With out estimated population of 2.025M = 1.92/100,000

Toronto is at 68, estimated population at around 2.8M = 2.43/100,000
Montreal now at 40, a 15 year high.... unbelievable.
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:07 AM
 
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Birmingham 144
Bham Metro 192
192 homicides in the metro excluding City proper or 192 in the metro including the 144 in Birmingham?
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Old 12-27-2022, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Screw Hartford, we know it's bad. WTH happened to Boston? The poster boy of safe urban cities lol?
I don’t think Boston is bad at all but also it shouldn’t have been the poster boy for anything. It had 60 homicides in 220 and often is in the mid to high 50s.

Prior to the pandemic Seattle had years with like 20 homicides. NYC always has a lower homicide rate.


Boston had an uptick in violence in the last third of this year. The last victim was a a teenager shot i the head, much of this crime is you concerned in 2018 Boston had only 20 youth gun arrests as of December 14th this year there were 102. Crime rate overall however is literally half of what it was in 2005 and unchanged from last year.
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Old 12-27-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Screw Hartford, we know it's bad. WTH happened to Boston? The poster boy of safe urban cities lol?
The Boston MSA still has less than 70 homicides. By far, the safest MSA of the largest 20.

NYC has a rate of about 3/4 that of Boston, while the MSA is about 5/3

So far, without knowing San Diego or Austins numbers... NYC might be the safest city in the country (of the top 30 cities)
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