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Old 10-14-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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How are the saints going to judge the world???



Which world? The covenantal world (κόσμος) of the Jews.

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And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Which world? The covenantal world (κόσμος) of the Jews.

Read:

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

The "sea" will rejoice one day.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Jesus already did die for all of us. He made the way for all who believe in Him to live eternally. I, Mike or anyone else is not an acceptable sacrifice for a human life. Jesus is the only One God will and has accepted.
Jesus is the only One who was, is and always will be, morally and spiritually pure. Internal, Eternal Holiness to carry out the work of God. He is the One who purchased men for God.
Revelation 5:9
And they sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

Revelation 14:4
These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.


Yes Mr5150 and CantWait2Leave, God is First. We cannot be accountable for another's unbelief or sin and we cannot die for another, to enter eternity. We cannot even buy this with our own life for another.
Besides, I myself trust God completely to bring my children into His everlasting Kingdom.

God Bless,
Mercy
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:45 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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In that verse he was refering to the children...
Yes I know that. But there's another parallel verse, 'woe to the one who sin comes through' (I'm not quoting verbatim) which has the same basic meaning.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:12 PM
 
Location: US
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Sorry but that sounds like a very stuck up self important Jesus to me. It's not the Jesus I know. The scripture you quote has the self-important tainting of man and some man's ego who re-wrote Jesus' words to fit some self absorbed agenda.

Those are not the sentiments of a prophet that Christians proclaim to be all loving.
Another person making God in there own image...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:14 PM
 
Location: US
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Oh really?
So loving my daughter more than anything is a definite problem? I live each day thanking God for her life. We appreciate the beauty and magnificence of life every day. We have reason to. What we are not doing is waiting for the "after life" to appreciate life and give thanks. I believe in God, but not in the way you do. I am loving life today. God gave me the greatest gift of my life, my daughter. I cherish the day, everyday.

Those who choose to believe that Jesus will not accept/save you from "hell" simply because you choose to love your family first and foremost are free to have that belief. I'm not one to tell you otherwise.

I'm just a simple, happy, thankful soul who lives in the moment. I don't put my heart and life and focus on what will happen the day I die. I focus on the gifts I have today. God given gifts. I think God is happy that I appreciate what he has given me today. Because the Jesus I beleive in is self-less like that, not self centered.
Eat, Drink and be Merry...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: US
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Yes I know that. But there's another parallel verse, 'woe to the one who sin comes through' (I'm not quoting verbatim) which has the same basic meaning.
And that one was talking about the betrayer of Christ...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: US
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Jesus already did die for all of us. He made the way for all who believe in Him to live eternally. I, Mike or anyone else is not an acceptable sacrifice for a human life. Jesus is the only One God will and has accepted.
Jesus is the only One who was, is and always will be, morally and spiritually pure. Internal, Eternal Holiness to carry out the work of God. He is the One who purchased men for God.
Revelation 5:9
And they sang a new song: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

Revelation 14:4
These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.


Yes Mr5150 and CantWait2Leave, God is First. We cannot be accountable for another's unbelief or sin and we cannot die for another, to enter eternity. We cannot even buy this with our own life for another.
Besides, I myself trust God completely to bring my children into His everlasting Kingdom.

God Bless,
Mercy
Jesus came for the Elect only...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:20 PM
 
Location: US
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Which world? The covenantal world (κόσμος) of the Jews.

Read:

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Who was He talking about?...
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Clayton, MO
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Eat, Drink and be Merry...
Cheers!
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