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Old 09-04-2009, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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I'll take a stab at this one. yes, Chicagoans shun Native Americans from their city. Why? Because the Native Americans buy up more properties in Wisconsin than they can. This makes Chicagoans boil with envy.
Where in the heck do you live, anyway? There are Native Americans all over Chicago... for starters:

The American Indian Center of Chicago- The Nation's oldest urban indian center.

 
Old 09-04-2009, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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like Sammy Sosa, I don't think he has a drop of European/Spaniard blood in him.
Yep so is Merlin Santana from old Steve Harvey show and Alfonso Ribeiro from Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
 
Old 09-04-2009, 06:09 PM
 
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And then there is this story in the news today


Neighbor allegedly yelled racist slurs and threatened to harm family

Hate crime unnerves Chicago family who won lawsuit -- chicagotribune.com
 
Old 09-04-2009, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Twilight zone
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like Sammy Sosa, I don't think he has a drop of European/Spaniard blood in him.
hell, look @ david ortiz or vlad guerrero
 
Old 09-05-2009, 09:19 AM
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Most Dominicans have Sub Saharan African heritage(aka black).
Absolutely!! It's just so ordinary (today) to look at some one and say, "oh, he's black, etc, etc. I think if you really want to know the truth, take a DNA test.. You'd be very surprised what you'd find.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Glencoe, IL
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Race is a sociological constuct, and has no basis in biology. As pointed out above, Sicilians, Greeks (and yep, even we Micks) and other southern Europeans were not always considered white - it wasn't until the WASP ruling class decided that the "inferior" Europeans were preferable to Mexicans/Latin Americans, Africans, Asians, etc in America that they became white.

The people who came up with much of the idea that crime could be traced to race were the same bozos who came up with eugenics/forced steriilzations, skull shape-criminal tendencies studies and so on.
Race is both a construct and a reality. The fact that it has been applied in inaccurate or malevolent ways in the past does not mean that it is a falsehood. If you sent a lab your DNA it could tell you what race people think you are. Yeah, it would tell you that Obama was black AND white, but that's an example of society introducing inaccuracies into science, not science being wrong.

Anyway, focusing on "nature versus nurture" is stupid: it's almost always both.
 
Old 09-07-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Why is is chicago still segrated?? What a stupid question. Do me a favor. Go to Englewood or Austin and walk around. That should answer your question why chicago is still segregated. You dont have to be a genius to figure it out.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Nort Seid
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Race is both a construct and a reality. The fact that it has been applied in inaccurate or malevolent ways in the past does not mean that it is a falsehood. If you sent a lab your DNA it could tell you what race people think you are. Yeah, it would tell you that Obama was black AND white, but that's an example of society introducing inaccuracies into science, not science being wrong.

Anyway, focusing on "nature versus nurture" is stupid: it's almost always both.
But nurture is all we can change. And while there are some medical reasons to try and focus on race (isolating a demographic's risk for medical problems, etc), for the most part it has been applied in inaccurate and malevolent ways & likely will moving forward.

Cops still search black people during traffic stops far more often than whites, even though the stats suggest they should do it the other way around. There is no DNA-based reasoning behind that.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: San Leandro
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At least with the segregation I know where I am and am not welcome.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 09:55 PM
 
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Cops still search black people during traffic stops far more often than whites, even though the stats suggest they should do it the other way around. There is no DNA-based reasoning behind that.
Huh? that makes zero sense. Old people commit less crime than the young, females commit less crime than males, and whites commit less crimes then blacks. The stats don't lie, we are not all the same, that's ludicrous. Men and women are not the same either, obviously. It's incredible in this day and age of decoding the DNA genome, that someone could say that race or gender is a construct!!! LOL!!
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