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Damn solar minimum, I have a hunch it will last for centuries toocould it spell the end of humanity as we know itit very well could be, this comes at a time when mankind already has enough to fret about. I sincerely believe that global cooling(brought on by a quiet sun)would be far more detrimental to humanity than a warmer world would have been.
You still stuck on a cold rant grant? Warmer is the key word
Quote from article: "The southern United States is an inhospitable environment for the growing of exotic forest trees. The area has been compared with that of Siberia, without its severity, for its great fluctuations in winter temperature. This phenomenon prohibits the successful establishment of forest trees from most other parts of the world where the mean winter temperature can be even lower than that in the southern United States. The temperatures in those areas, however, decline steadily from summer highs to winter lows in the absence of fluctuating warm and cold temperatures."
Why I always have stated that Beijing has more broadleaf evergreens than Philly that are native. Pretty sad for us green winter lovers. Beijing is much colder than Philly in winter, but doesn't go up and down all winter either.
Eucalyptus is one of those Mediterranean trees that doesn't do well with vascillating winter temps. In California and Australia, winters are very consistently cool and mild with ample rain. Thus it can bud correctly. Both California and Australia are very inconsistent in the hot months (Melbourne is an extreme example) but Eucalyptus tolerates high temperatures well.
On the flip side even though we think of oleander as a Med shrub as well, it actually does quite well in the Southeast. Here in Texas they have started planting oleander along I-10 from Houston to Beaumont as it does well in the median and the strip between the interstate and the access roads. In this climate they actually don't have to water it at all (once it's established) and you can see the beautiful oleander bushes blooming along the Katy Freeway and Eastex freeway.
I've found that 80% of the time in the winter I can grow tropicals as long as they are planted and I can take them inside during those cold nights and days. I go from "planter season" to "planted season" in the other months.
Right. Chicago, with a record low of -27 F, is certainly gonna hit -40 F soon.
Why stop there? Miami is gonna hit -20 F. Atlanta is gonna hit -60 F. Minneapolis will be -100 F.
What will Raleigh hit. Is this cold blast centered more west? Maybe -55? Or does it maintain strength as it heads east? Maybe -63? Can’t be far from what Atlanta hits. I can only imagine the carnage of manatees in Miami if it hits -20!
Incorrect. Global average temperatures are still warming. CO2 reductions will continue to be big as coal plants continue to be retired around the US and the world.
Co2 is not being reduced though. Too many people need access to cheap energy. Not a chance of the world stabilizing Co2 levels for a long time. We are at 410ppm. Forget about dropping Co2 emissions. I highly doubt we will even be able to stabilize Co2 even at 510 ppm (40 years time).
Annoyingly above normal for the next 12 days but temps begin to drop right around Christmas. I thing December ends up above average here, unless the week after Christmas gets really cold.
Co2 is not being reduced though. Too many people need access to cheap energy. Not a chance of the world stabilizing Co2 levels for a long time. We are at 410ppm. Forget about dropping Co2 emissions. I highly doubt we will even be able to stabilize Co2 even at 510 ppm (40 years time).
Annoyingly above normal for the next 12 days but temps begin to drop right around Christmas. I thing December ends up above average here, unless the week after Christmas gets really cold.
Very true. We will never get past coal and oil in our life times and the damage has been done. People cry about gas cars but elec cars need charging and that takes energy also. It is a no win.
Only chance we have is if we have a big die off of say 8 billion people. But even if every person and car was beamed off this planet the heating will still take place.
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
413 AM EST Tue Dec 11 2018
It feels like late January early this morning across the area
with temperatures generally in the teens to lower 20s, with
upper 20s being observed in the cities. The coldest spots are
out in the Shenandoah Valley where the snowpack, calm winds, and
crystal clear skies have yielded single digit readings. We are
seeing some slight reductions in visibilities as well, but
nothing less than 5 miles or so at this point.
The main hazard to be mindful of when heading out this morning
will be icy patches and black ice, particularly for areas that
saw snow melt yesterday. Allow plenty of time to reach your
destination, drive slowly, and exercise extra caution until
temperatures rise above freezing later this morning.
51F at my place. Anytime there is clouds and wind coming off the gulf it keeps me much warmer than inland.
Pray we get another block buster line of heavy rain Friday. With this split flow it could end up being a wet Dec. I would love to see 17" like we got in Dec of 1997.
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, I have a hunch it will last for centuries too
it very well could be, this comes at a time when mankind already has enough to fret about
. I sincerely believe that global cooling(brought on by a quiet sun)would be far more detrimental to humanity than a warmer world would have been
.
. Is this cold blast centered more west? Maybe -55? Or does it maintain strength as it heads east? Maybe -63? Can’t be far from what Atlanta hits. I can only imagine the carnage of manatees in Miami if it hits -20!
