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Well, I think the past few years for me put to rest the notion that England has a four-season climate, at least in any reliable sense. Even if there is a mostly-dormant period most years, some years autumn leaves coexist with spring sprouts; in that case there is no winter, especially given the lack of snow and cold. I'm sure this is especially true in southern England, but similar afflictions plague the whole country which in any case is on the margin for dormancy and doesn't have much of a winter.
Excuse me, who made you the king of the seasons? England has winter. What you define as winter is not important. Also if England does not have a four season climate, what season is perpetual throughout the year? Summer? Autumn? What?
By the way, what do you mean 'the past few years'? If you have not noticed, I live here, not you, so I am far more knowledgeable on my own climate then you are, having lived here my entire life and all.
Yea, this storm looks more realistic than all the previous ones this winter:
ACCUMULATING SNOW IS POSSIBLE ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION WEDNESDAY
INTO THURSDAY...AS A SERIES OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS PASS SOUTH OF
NEW ENGLAND. THE AMOUNT OF SNOW WILL DEPEND ON THE EXACT TRACK OF
THESE SYSTEMS AND IF IT REMAINS COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW.
AT THE VERY LEAST...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES MAY NEED TO BE
ISSUED FOR PARTS OF THE AREA.
Here, too a day before it heads east Tues./Wed.! This is the first sizeable snow of the season with some areas due to get 6-12" of snow, exact track still not etched in stone (is it ever???)
If you must go there, it is a self-appointed position . Seriously, seasons have definitions, and people insisting that any warmer period constitutes summer or any cooler period constitutes a winter stretches the concept of four seasons so much that it is devoid of meaning, that meaning being there are four distinct states of the vegetation and landscape, which a place where autumn leaves and spring sprouts coexisting in the cool season lacks. That is the whole point of this silly argument. If I am the only one with the courage to promulgate good sense as it regards proper seasons, so be it. Let my definitions and conceptions be known.
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Also if England does not have a four season climate, what season is perpetual throughout the year? Summer? Autumn? What?
Consider this: just because Miami has a distinctly cooler and drier period in December-February, does that mean it has winter and it has a four-season climate merely because you can't think of any other description? Of course not. Your location is far removed from Miamian conditions but the concept is the same.
I happen to believe that although England does not have a "true" four-season climate (your seasons are weak), you still have four seasons vegetation-wise, which is what counts in my eyes, so your question is irrelevant. There is a dormant period, a spring period, a summer leaf period, and an autumn in your location. Your winter is weak with the general lack of cold and snow, the prevailing mildness and warmth even on the best of years, as well as your vegetation never going fully dormant and still being on the margin of dormancy given the ease of spring coming early or in midwinter - you or Weatherfan2 said that there never been anything other than green grass in winter in their experience.
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By the way, what do you mean 'the past few years'?
Mostly the past 6 years, when I have seen newspaper articles and reports of autumns and springs warmer than your summers, as well as a "winter" warm enough so that January featured concurrent autumn leaves and spring blooms. This has happened more than once as I recall - for everyone's information, I do not count this year among the years without any kind of winter in England. If this information is inaccurate for either your location or southern England, I welcome corrections.
Other than that, this debate is over and I toss both our arguments to the wind.
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Yesterday was such an interesting weather day for New York City and parts of the Northeastern USA in general.
It seemed like one third of the day was sunny, one third partly cloudy, and the other one third cloudy.
It was also one of the windiest days of the season with 25 to 30mph sustained winds and gusts from 35 to 42mph.
Also, there were snow flurries Late Afternoon and Early Evening. For 15 minutes, the snow was actually falling heavy, at least where I was at that time. But after those 15 minutes, it stopped snowing altogether and none of the snow stuck to the ground.
Just the day before this one, the weather forecasts said it was not going to snow and not even for one second!
At the most windiest when I was outside, I saw three people that were walking in the direction of the wind. They all turned the opposite direction and briefly walked backwards and they looked so funny when they did that. When they were looking at me, they looked happy and miserable at the same time about the wind.
Yet again another example of the pattern here this winter. A few mild days, then maybe 2 days of "slightly cold" weather, and then after that a few more mild days. It's supposed to be 55 F tomorrow.
Feb's turning out to be a sunny month here in Buxton, some 44 hours so far, that's even more than the last three have managed. Makes up for the dull december with only 17 hours!1
And, would you believe it, I saw a tree which actually had leaves coming out, already. It was also starting to blossom some pretty flowers. Nice to see nature waking up to spring.
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Feb's turning out to be a sunny month here in Buxton, some 44 hours so far, that's even more than the last three have managed. Makes up for the dull december with only 17 hours!1
And, would you believe it, I saw a tree which actually had leaves coming out, already. It was also starting to blossom some pretty flowers. Nice to see nature waking up to spring.
44hours is pretty pathetic. Royston got 106 hours so far.
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. Seriously, seasons have definitions, and people insisting that any warmer period constitutes summer or any cooler period constitutes a winter stretches the concept of four seasons so much that it is devoid of meaning, that meaning being there are four distinct states of the vegetation and landscape, which a place where autumn leaves and spring sprouts coexisting in the cool season lacks. That is the whole point of this silly argument. If I am the only one with the courage to promulgate good sense as it regards proper seasons, so be it. Let my definitions and conceptions be known.
