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View Poll Results: Which density level would you consider ideal for average city living?
Extremely high density. Above 10, 000 people per square mile 57 37.75%
Medium Density. 3000 ppsm to 10 000 ppsm 64 42.38%
Low Density. 500 ppsm to 3000 ppsm 12 7.95%
no density. below 500 ppsm 18 11.92%
Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-12-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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No Kidphilly. you miss my point. we already went through this in the chicago thread and I agree with you. If you read my post here you can see that I am talking about the posters who put down others because of lower density.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex
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Ask the high density junkies who use that as an excuse to put down cities that are so awesome they can't find anything else to gripe about
Density dosen't mean anything to me. Density doesn't make a city.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Orlando - South
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I like being around people but I dont living crammed with people. It can get annoying. I like low density. You still see plenty of people when you go out since most people go to certain areas (town centers, community centers, where ever all the stores and restaurnats are) and in those small areas the density is much higher, but you still have your own personal living space, and you have a quiet street where you can enjoy a peaceful walk at night, and when your dog gets out you don't have to worry about it being hit by a car, etc. So a pop. density of 1-2 thousand per sq mile is ideal to me.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Hernando County, FL
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5 ppsm seems about right
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I feel this all depends on age. Older people are going to prefer the lower density suburbs because they were raised in dense cities. They enjoy the free space suburban living offers and its auto-friendly design.

Younger people however, tend to prefer denser areas because we were raised in Suburbia. Of all my friends, not one wants to live in the suburbs. Our life plans are pretty much identical. Move to the city, get married, have kids, move to Evanston, IL.

I prefer the density because it's more beneficial to everyone. We're not wasting thousands of square miles for land that could be conserved for non-human life. I'll stop now.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Younger people however, tend to prefer denser areas because we were raised in Suburbia. Of all my friends, not one wants to live in the suburbs. Our life plans are pretty much identical. Move to the city, get married, have kids, move to Evanston, IL.
What the...? Do people even plan their lives out that far?

Evanston? So is that where all of Chicago's population is heading off to now? Hmm answers one part of the mystery.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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My neighborhood is 18,000 people per square mile and it feels just right. It doesn't feel that dense though. I picked it over a neighborhood that was less dense but somehow felt more dense. I feel like I have more elbow room here somehow than I do in other neighborhoods that are actually less dense.
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Old 07-13-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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I feel this all depends on age. Older people are going to prefer the lower density suburbs because they were raised in dense cities. They enjoy the free space suburban living offers and its auto-friendly design.

Younger people however, tend to prefer denser areas because we were raised in Suburbia. Of all my friends, not one wants to live in the suburbs. Our life plans are pretty much identical. Move to the city, get married, have kids, move to Evanston, IL.

I prefer the density because it's more beneficial to everyone. We're not wasting thousands of square miles for land that could be conserved for non-human life. I'll stop now.
Or maybe young people like low density areas because that's what they're used to. One of the reasons I don't like density is because I was raised in the suburbs so I'm not used to it. And when you learn how to drive in the suburbs, you realize suburban driving is much easier than city driving. I realize cities have public transportation but I don't want to be a slave to public transportation.
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Old 07-13-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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I realize cities have public transportation but I don't want to be a slave to public transportation.

I think people from high density areas get really comfortable with driving less so there is this belief that everyone is the same.
I love public transportation when it is efficient, but I also like my freedom.

When I was in Europe I was shocked by the number of people who didn't have a drivers license. They had a negative opinion of all the cars in the US but I wonder how much of that is due to never driving before. They kept saying why don't we build more subways. I think subways are great coming from Texas it is not all that convenient.

I remember going out in London and not being able to go home because the trains had stopped running. I remember helping my host haul chairs on the rails in Geneva. It all seemed inconvenient to me.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I think people from high density areas get really comfortable with driving less so there is this belief that everyone is the same.
I love public transportation when it is efficient, but I also like my freedom.

When I was in Europe I was shocked by the number of people who didn't have a drivers license. They had a negative opinion of all the cars in the US but I wonder how much of that is due to never driving before. They kept saying why don't we build more subways. I think subways are great coming from Texas it is not all that convenient.

I remember going out in London and not being able to go home because the trains had stopped running. I remember helping my host haul chairs on the rails in Geneva. It all seemed inconvenient to me.
Why didn't you take advantage of the 24 hour bus service in London? The night bus routes mimic the routes of the subways usually...
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