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View Poll Results: Which density level would you consider ideal for average city living?
Extremely high density. Above 10, 000 people per square mile 57 37.75%
Medium Density. 3000 ppsm to 10 000 ppsm 64 42.38%
Low Density. 500 ppsm to 3000 ppsm 12 7.95%
no density. below 500 ppsm 18 11.92%
Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-26-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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No more than one family residence per acre. Perhaps 1.5 acres. Urbanization is crap, LOL!
Sounds very comfortable to me.
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Old 07-26-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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Not sure who said that, but I assume you don't agree, and neither do I. We have all been taught that we should want a house in the woods, going back quite a few generations now, although what the people doing the selling resembles a "house in the woods" only in the sense that the styrofoam/meat hockey puck they sell you at McDonald's resembles a hamburger.

So, again--you move out to the woods. You chop some logs, pee off the porch, eat nuts and berries. All is well until you hear the sounds of other logs being chopped, and before you know it, you have neighbors, and they would like to have a word with you about this peeing off the porch business. What then?
Its not that I agree or don't agree. I am just a fan of areas that offer both. I want to be in an area that is not so dense but close to denser areas. They always put down areas that are not compact and dense, but I like things spread out
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Old 07-26-2010, 11:49 PM
 
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The problem is, what happens when everyone else decides they want a home in the woods too, and suddenly you realize you aren't nearly as "alone" as you thought you were?
Well that would suck and I would live underwater living on sea weed and fish poop.

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Not sure who said that, but I assume you don't agree, and neither do I. We have all been taught that we should want a house in the woods, going back quite a few generations now, although what the people doing the selling resembles a "house in the woods" only in the sense that the styrofoam/meat hockey puck they sell you at McDonald's resembles a hamburger.

So, again--you move out to the woods. You chop some logs, pee off the porch, eat nuts and berries. All is well until you hear the sounds of other logs being chopped, and before you know it, you have neighbors, and they would like to have a word with you about this peeing off the porch business. What then?
Well not me good sir. Give me some chickens, some seeds, and plenty of water. I would only kill a chicken if there were too many. Eggs can be used for so many things... Not just egg tasting things.I really love hard labor. If I have to build my own house and watch my veggies grow. I'll be ok. Again, if im in the middle woods why would I have neighbors? If I was single I would backpack and live in a tent. Funny thing though... I would have to launch any dead chickens across the forest with some sort of homemade catapult to keep the bears away. lol

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Shouldn't you live-in-the-woods types be happy that everyone wants to live in cities? Keeping things nice and quiet for you?
Hell yea! Now my wife on the other hand wants to live near the ocean, **** loads of people
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:31 AM
 
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Well that would suck and I would live underwater living on sea weed and fish poop.



Well not me good sir. Give me some chickens, some seeds, and plenty of water. I would only kill a chicken if there were too many. Eggs can be used for so many things... Not just egg tasting things.I really love hard labor. If I have to build my own house and watch my veggies grow. I'll be ok. Again, if im in the middle woods why would I have neighbors? If I was single I would backpack and live in a tent. Funny thing though... I would have to launch any dead chickens across the forest with some sort of homemade catapult to keep the bears away. lol



Hell yea! Now my wife on the other hand wants to live near the ocean, **** loads of people
You don't have to live in the country to raise chickens:
Welcome to Mad City Chickens
I have a couple friends who have chickens in their backyards, in the middle of a city. I grow corn, tomatoes and squash in mine.

As to your position in the middle of the woods--what stops other people from moving into the woods with you? New suburban developments always start out on the edge of "civilization"--but as time goes on, the problems people moved to the suburbs to escape follow them. Traffic, pollution, noisy neighbors, etcetera, all arrive over time. It creates a cycle of sprawl that eats lots of space.

And in all seriousness, where are you living now? In a city, in the suburbs, in a rural area? And why are you there, rather than in the woods? One assumes that Internet access isn't that available in the middle of the woods.
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Old 07-27-2010, 01:28 PM
 
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10k is extremely high density?

that disqualifies this poll for me.

i live in a denser area that is SFR, with apartments and mixed commercial. but it has no high rises and massive apt complexes. i like it. i have all the ammenities and conveniences within walking distance, but at night the city rests.

its about 15 to 18k density.
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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10k is extremely high density?

that disqualifies this poll for me.

i live in a denser area that is SFR, with apartments and mixed commercial. but it has no high rises and massive apt complexes. i like it. i have all the ammenities and conveniences within walking distance, but at night the city rests.

its about 15 to 18k density.


See post # 96
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:47 PM
 
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And in all seriousness, where are you living now? In a city, in the suburbs, in a rural area? And why are you there, rather than in the woods? One assumes that Internet access isn't that available in the middle of the woods.
Because I am married now and what the wife says goes.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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Because I am married now and what the wife says goes.
Ha ha, that is how it always is
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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You don't have to live in the country to raise chickens:
Welcome to Mad City Chickens
I have a couple friends who have chickens in their backyards, in the middle of a city. I grow corn, tomatoes and squash in mine.

As to your position in the middle of the woods--what stops other people from moving into the woods with you? New suburban developments always start out on the edge of "civilization"--but as time goes on, the problems people moved to the suburbs to escape follow them. Traffic, pollution, noisy neighbors, etcetera, all arrive over time. It creates a cycle of sprawl that eats lots of space.

And in all seriousness, where are you living now? In a city, in the suburbs, in a rural area? And why are you there, rather than in the woods? One assumes that Internet access isn't that available in the middle of the woods.
lol, you got it wrong, everyone strives for Manhattan remember. no one wants to live in areas with densities below 100k per sq mile. no one will bother him in the woods. people like to be cramped remember
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Providence, RI
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Density is just a number. I don't really care if the density is 200 people per square mile or 100,000 people per square mile as long as it's executed properly.

What do I mean? Well high density areas often work because of layout and scale, not necessarily the number of people living within a given square mile. Manhattan is very high density but it works because you have wall to wall buildings, pedestrian friendly streets, good public transit, and parks scattered about to provide respite from the cityscape. On the other hand, Co-op City, also in New York has a very high density but it's a complex of high-rise towers set in grassy yards surrounded by low and density suburban retail. It's a nightmare.

Long story short, the built environment is FAR more important than an arbitrary density number. Different places cram people together in different ways. High density can be an absolute nightmare if done poorly (like Co-op City) but high density can also make for a wonderful environment if done well (like Manhattan, San Francisco, Boston, etc). I don't care about the number, I care about the setup.

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