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Old 04-05-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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what is the right way to densify??

Or rather, how is densifying in 55 different cities in 10,000 square miles better than densifying in one city in the same 10,000 sq miles?
Because... each city will densify to their city's demand.Everybody that moves here wont be Dallas' sole responsibilty to accomidate. The People that do decide to live in dallas(wich is a small percentage according to the 2010 census) will move into some high calibur well planned urban projects.

In Houston...all of the newbies move to Houston..That puts the burden on houston to accomidate thousands and thousands and thousands more people which puts a bigger strain on the city's infrastructure. In the attempt of the city of Houston to accomidate this grand influx of people...it allows houston to have more relaxed code structure and laws for developers. And if you couple that with no zoning you get a busy city with poorly planned, bland, boringly designed tall buildings going up everywhere and quickly because of the influx....this is what I meant.

 
Old 04-05-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Because... each city will densify to their city's demand.Everybody that moves here wont be Dallas' sole responsibilty to accomidate. The People that do decide to live in dallas(wich is a small percentage according to the 2010 census) will move into some high calibur well planned urban projects.

In Houston...all of the newbies move to Houston..That puts the burden on houston to accomidate thousands and thousands and thousands more people which puts a bigger strain on the city's infrastructure. In the attempt of the city of Houston to accomidate this grand influx of people...it allows houston to have more relaxed code structure and laws for developers. And if you couple that with no zoning you get a busy city with poorly planned, bland, boringly designed tall buildings going up everywhere and quickly because of the influx....this is what I meant.
Except that it isn't supported by fact, and the rest is just your opinion.

Just like DFW, the majority of our growth is suburban, and the majority of the metro area lives outside of the City of Houston, and not in it. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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Except that it isn't supported by fact, and the rest is just your opinion.

Just like DFW, the majority of our growth is suburban, and the majority of the metro area lives outside of the City of Houston, and not in it. You have no idea what you're talking about.
he is wrong, but you are also partly wrong.

Houston Metro is divided into 3rds

1/3 of the pop is city proper
1/3 is city supported ETJ
and the other 1/3 is suburban.

Less than 2M people in Houston Metro resides in the Burbs outside Houston's influence. Over 4M in the city and its jurisdiction share its services.


But yeah, what he is saying is still junk.
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:03 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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he is wrong, but you are also partly wrong.

Houston Metro is divided into 3rds

1/3 of the pop is city proper
1/3 is city supported ETJ
and the other 1/3 is suburban.

Less than 2M people in Houston Metro resides in the Burbs outside Houston's influence. Over 4M in the city and its jurisdiction share its services.


But yeah, what he is saying is still junk.
Few people consider the ETJs as the real Houston. When I say "City of Houston", I mean the actual city.
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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The levees are the catalyst for the entire TRP.

The MHH bridge is what may be considered a centerpiece.



There are wide enough lanes to the sides of the roadways on the bridge that allows space for riding bikes and walking. Several people were doing that on Sunday when I drove across.



Wouldn't it be easier to complete construction on the bridge(s) prior to flooding the Trinity Basin underneath?



Maybe, but again MHH also has access for bikers and pedestrians.
A bridge like this would've been more tasteful looking in Dallas & costed billions less to build. The city could have done so much with that extra money saved. What a waste.

Cleveland, Ohio
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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A bridge like this would've been more tasteful looking in Dallas & costed billions less to build. The city could have done so much with that extra money saved. What a waste.

Cleveland, Ohio
There's nothing really special about it. It's kinda too plain.
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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There's nothing really special about it. It's kinda too plain.
Its all Dallas needed.

The Trinty ain't nothing special.

Lots of cities were founded on rivers & bayous.

If they could put just that much water into it that would be better than what is currently there...nothing.
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Few people consider the ETJs as the real Houston. When I say "City of Houston", I mean the actual city.
he is arguing on the basis of city services.

Screw ETJ I am talking about the population that Houston provides services too.

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A bridge like this would've been more tasteful looking in Dallas & costed billions less to build. The city could have done so much with that extra money saved. What a waste.

Cleveland, Ohio
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There's nothing really special about it. It's kinda too plain.
I think that it is a sexier bridge than what was built in Dallas
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Well now that we've established that everyone in Houston hates the MHH Bridge in Dallas let's start getting opinions on the 2nd bridge being built. The McDermott bridge for I-30. There will be 3 bridges in total for Houstonians to loathe. Will be a tough choice on which one to hate the most!
 
Old 04-05-2012, 08:31 PM
 
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Well now that we've established that everyone in Houston hates the MHH Bridge in Dallas let's start getting opinions on the 2nd bridge being built. The McDermott bridge for I-30. There will be 3 bridges in total for Houstonians to loathe. Will be a tough choice on which one to hate the most!
actually renderings of that one doesn't look as ridiculous.

That MHH one will always be tops for most ridiculous
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