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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
The God I met and the one revealed and demonstrated by Jesus needs no defense against your human-derived expectations.
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What I'm hearing is your god is too cowardly to stand before his accusers.
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Originally Posted by LearnMe
That's one of the most soulless comments I've read in this forum in a long while.
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I'm guessing you haven't read the text.
Would you like to know what you're going to be doing in this hellish after-life?
You're going to put on a white tupa and bow and sing, "
Holy, Holy is the Lamb!"
for all eternity.
And here you mistakenly thought you'd get to travel around the Universe viewing wonders, satiating desires both subtle and gross, and gaining an understanding.
Fat chance of that.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
everything you posted here shows it was fast.
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So you say, based entirely on your ethnocentric view.
If only every prior existing organism had to wait 13 years to reach sexual maturity and then produced one off-spring, you might actually be onto something.
The astute observer would have noted that the less complex an organism is, the faster it reaches sexual maturity, the shorter the gestation period, and the more off-spring it produces.
As organisms become more complex, it takes longer to reach sexual maturity, the gestation period is longer, and fewer off-spring are produced.
Yes, the average human life-span was 35 years, but the median age was actually 58 years.
There are bacteria that reproduce every 4 minutes. That's 7,621,200 generations.
A green-eyed fly every 24 hours, or 21,170 generations.
See how that works?
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
What it shows is that you have earth bound view and think that human time scales are the reference frame. A very limited view.
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I neither stated nor implied any such thing. We are, after all, talking about Earth. Conditions on other planets would be different, unless one happened to be exactly like Earth in every way, shape and form.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
We might be second or third gen star. Life happen real fast. It took the first generation stars just to produce the elements. it took some 3 billion years to produce the oxygen needed for multi cellar life. As soon as the O2 was available life went "boom". It went from a rat size animal to a human in 65 million years. From a ape thing to pre-human then human in a several/couple of million years.
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Yes, because mutations happen.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
How many times do you say "by chance" when it becomes apparent that "by chance" just is not explaining it property? Unless you are using the word "random" like they do when they a cell insides are working in a random fashion. Then it fits exactly.
either way ... it was fast.
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That's because you don't understand it.
Every cell has a natural rate of mutation. Every cell literally means every cell. Your liver cells have a natural rate of mutation that is slightly different than the natural rate of mutation for bone cells which is different still from the natural rate of mutation lung cells which is different still than the various types of cells in mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, insects, birds, fungus, plants and trees.
If we relied solely on the natural rate of mutation, then, yes, there wouldn't be much here except very simple life.
Fortunately, we had a helping hand from natural background radiation that coerced mutations to occur at much, much faster rates.
That natural background radiation comes from our Sun, other stars inside and outside of our galaxy, and radioactive elements on Earth.
The intensity of that natural background radiation has decreased over time, and will continue to decrease over time, but it will never be "0" REMs, because you cannot shield 100% of solar or stellar radiation.
Time-traveling to the far distant past on Earth would be stupid, because at one point, 20 minutes on Earth would be enough to kill you, but not other organisms.
What we have here, is your inability to wrap your brain around age of sexual maturity, gestation period, number of off-spring and the rapid rates of coerced mutation.
Having said that, I am willing to concede that Human Evolution appears to be an aberration.
In fact, I have repeatedly maintained that for a very, very long time. I am open to suggestions, but it does not require a god-thing to fill in the gaps.
Indeed, I find it more likely extra-terrestrials tinkered with Human DNA than any god-thing, and I'm not the first person to suggest that, because 1,000s of years ago some people actually claimed it was extra-terrestrials.
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