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Yes, Ukraine needs all the help that they can get from anyone. In the meantime, the Russians have still not committed all of their forces to the Ukraine conflict. But it looks like they are starting some kind of offensives after taking Avdeevka. They are advancing on several axis now. We will have to pay attention to this and see what develops.
What develops is more meat grinder. Losses on both sides Ukraine should have taken the deal offered nearly two years ago now they farked around and found out. Wait for the Russian response if these long range missiles start hitting Russian population centers.
Right or wrong, I'm curious why you are so gleeful about an authoritarian dictator getting away with invading a sovereign nation, destroying its cities and killing thousands of civilians, not to mention getting thousands of his own soldiers killed in the process. Are you some kind of sadist?
You do realize you could be talking about any number of US Presidents don't you?
Now, replace "authoritarian dictator" with "democratic state" and then go read history of wars, US was involved in. Including bombings and destruction of Yugoslavia, which is considered war crime.
Oh, sorry, "this is different", right? WE can do whatever we want to. THEY are Orks from Mordor.
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You do realize you could be talking about any number of US Presidents don't you?
"whataboutism" is no answer. If what the US did was wrong, that doesn't make what Russia did right. Orks? No. But Putin has crossed a line which caused a lot of death and sorrow and I don't get why some on this board are so happy about it.
Are you going to get angry at the media that lied to you for the last 2 years, claiming Ukraine was winning?
Screw the media. Anyone can see that the situation has been a stalemate for the past 2 years. Anyone can see that without massive western aid Ukraine will have to capitulate eventually. We can argue about who is winning, but I am asking, why are you rooting for Putin?
..........Seems your $44 number is also off. The sources I'm looking at state the extraction costs for older deposits are between $9-$20 a barrel. The very highest costs are offshore oil which is around $44. Some of those costs would be for Russian wages, so that cost isn't painful for Russia. Russia can sell at a discount (Which isn't abnormal to begin with) and still be quite profitable. Recent Western articles discuss how Russia's coffers are full, so it is quite possible that Russia is cash flush despite the war.
LOL!
From your link: When commenting on the IHS Markit report, Russia’s energy vice-minister Pavel Sorokin stated that the report’s calculations had been overestimated........
So the source you relied on was Russia, who challenged the report made by IHS markit.
Russia. You believe Russia when they tell you what their cost is.
Russia is in deep Ka-ka. They are slowly being crushed by sanctions and international isolation.
Something else is crushing them, too, but we don't know what it is. The Russian Air Force is being taken out of the sky. The A-50 that was shot down today is irreplaceable. It is valued by some sources at $500M, and had a crew of about 12 officers.
Screw the media. Anyone can see that the situation has been a stalemate for the past 2 years. Anyone can see that without massive western aid Ukraine will have to capitulate eventually. We can argue about who is winning, but I am asking, why are you rooting for Putin?
I'm not rooting for Putin. I'm against our neoconish policy that thought carrying out a coup and antagonizing Russia with NATO membership for Ukraine was a good idea. I want that entire sector of our government to just disappear (drop all of them from a helicopter over the pacific if need be, Pinochet style) as they have done untold damage in the last 20-30 years. But for some reason, Americans keep playing into their script.
Well, 100s of billions dollars later (all of which we took on credit, meaning we're paying interest on it), 500,000 dead Ukrainians and Russians, and appears that Russia will walk away with at least 1/5 of Ukraine - are you happy? This thing could have been solved diplomatically back in 2022.
Oh, I know, Putin is the next Hitler or Stalin, and will march on Europe. We had no choice but to fund Ukraine .
Screw the media. Anyone can see that the situation has been a stalemate for the past 2 years. Anyone can see that without massive western aid Ukraine will have to capitulate eventually. We can argue about who is winning, but I am asking, why are you rooting for Putin?
Also, anyone can see that Ukraine cannot win the war with massive Western aid too? What is the end game?
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