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In a manufactured "truth" environment, anything is possible if it suits the required narrative. And there is no accountability or logic involved.
And here is a 2nd cognitive dissonance rotation I see.
1st we hear that NATO has such superior weapons and training to Russia and when Ukraine gets more superior NATO training and weapons they'll turn the tide against Russia. So we need to give more to Ukraine.
Then we hear that Russia will take on NATO and be a great threat to NATO possibly taking over Western European powers that are much stronger than Ukraine. So we need to give more to Ukraine or they will take on NATO.
The same people will rotate back and forth between these contradictory positions as well.
American Glide bombs are wreaking havoc on Russian terrorists in Ukraine. Thank you American MIC for making great weapons to keep us safe and providing jobs for millions of Americans.
Glide bombs are wreaking havoc on Russian terrorists in Ukraine. Thank you American MIC for making great weapons to keep us safe and providing jobs for millions of Americans.
You are the true patriots.
Are you implying Eisenhower isn't a true patriot for telling us to be wary of the congressional military industrial complex that will needlessly get us into wars for profit, which could ultimately jeopardize our freedom and lives?
American Glide bombs are wreaking havoc on Russian terrorists in Ukraine. Thank you American MIC for making great weapons to keep us safe and providing jobs for millions of Americans.
You are the true patriots.
Lol. The jobs are provided by the taxpayer. You are welcome.
"...Still, some commentators—such as Russian-American journalist Michael Nacke, an analyst who, while unabashedly sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause, is sufficiently sober and fact-based to have warned about the overhyping of the Ukrainian counteroffensive last summer—argue that this new pessimism is in large part the product of Russian propaganda intended to undercut Western support for Ukraine and force Ukraine into peace talks on unfavorable terms. In a video he posted over the weekend, Nacke derided the illusion of Russian success as a Kremlin-sponsored “global bluff†and, even more colorfully, as a “castle of sand and ****.â€
The pyrrhic victory at Avdiivka, a ravaged and depopulated town taken at massive cost (videos shot by Russians themselves show the ground literally littered with dead bodies of Russian soldiers), is a case in point. Last week, Russian war blogger and ex-soldier Andrei Morozov (“Murzâ€) committed suicide after state media propagandists savaged him for talking about the huge losses in the four-month battle for Avdiivka. This conflict, and its tragic results, suggests that societal consolidation around the war is an illusion—and these tensions can only grow if there’s a new round of mobilization...."
"...Still, some commentators—such as Russian-American journalist Michael Nacke, an analyst who, while unabashedly sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause, is sufficiently sober and fact-based to have warned about the overhyping of the Ukrainian counteroffensive last summer—argue that this new pessimism is in large part the product of Russian propaganda intended to undercut Western support for Ukraine and force Ukraine into peace talks on unfavorable terms. In a video he posted over the weekend, Nacke derided the illusion of Russian success as a Kremlin-sponsored “global bluff†and, even more colorfully, as a “castle of sand and ****.â€
The pyrrhic victory at Avdiivka, a ravaged and depopulated town taken at massive cost (videos shot by Russians themselves show the ground literally littered with dead bodies of Russian soldiers), is a case in point. Last week, Russian war blogger and ex-soldier Andrei Morozov (“Murzâ€) committed suicide after state media propagandists savaged him for talking about the huge losses in the four-month battle for Avdiivka. This conflict, and its tragic results, suggests that societal consolidation around the war is an illusion—and these tensions can only grow if there’s a new round of mobilization...."
Calling Russian victories at Bakhmut and Avdiivka pyrrhic is downplaying Ukrainian losses. These analysts often say, look at all these ruins; the town is completely destroyed; what do the Russians gain? Duh, of course the town is destroyed. That's what happens in wars.
What the Russians gain are strategic locations that they didn't have before.
Y'all apparently do not realize that, both Bakhmut and Avdiivka were fortified since 2014 war Ukraine vs breakaway republics. Those strongholds were part of fortifications complex, Russia and Donbass/Lugansk militia are just now start pushing away from tormented Donetsk. That's about 9 years of building bunkers, tranches, etc. It's not just a "ruined city". It's much less damage to civilians in Donetsk.
That's the reason F-16s if ever donated would need to stay pretty far away, possibly just hunting cruise missiles
No, it depends on how the Ukrainian pilots were trained.
Already, the joke among the Ukrainian pilots is that going from their old MIGs to the F-16 is like going from Nokia to iPhone. Many underestimate the F-16 but we who knows the jet knows better. Even pilots who flies the mighty F-15 hesitate going up against us.
Ukrainian F-16s needs to do basically guerrilla air warfare or hit-and-run against Russian ground targets, and in this Wild Weasels F-16 are critical. WW F-16s are supposed to go after ground based air defense batteries, so Russian ground based air defense batteries INSIDE Ukrainian territory must be their first targets. This will also benefit Ukrainian ground troops by limiting the flexibility of Russian helos. This is assuming the Ukrainians will be trained on Wild Weasels tactics. Modern day air defense batteries are sophisticated enough that Wild Weasels hunting them practically qualifies as going against another jet fighter, plus, this is even worse in that these are ground targets so the altitude limit is low, as in going below 5000 AGL. The F-16s will be valuable assets, meaning various commands will be fighting for them, but in my opinion, the Russian ground based air defense inside Ukrainian territory should be highest priority as to give the rest of the scant Ukrainian Air Force maneuvering room.
Are you implying Eisenhower isn't a true patriot for telling us to be wary of the congressional military industrial complex that will needlessly get us into wars for profit, which could ultimately jeopardize our freedom and lives?
I respect what Ike warned...But...Here is the uncomfortable fact...That the MIC do not need wars to stay profitable. It is true that with a war, hardware will be destroyed and needs replaced, but in peacetime, we do nearly, and I mean greater than %75, as a war will do. We train harder than anyone. We deploy farther and stay longer in more hostile environments than anyone. We break more in peacetime than some militaries do in war time.
You do not like the price of some things the US military bought? A non-sparking hammer at civilian retail price can go as high as $300 per unit. One use for a non-sparking hammer is in general aviation and commercial shipping where fuel vapors do not like spark. Now look at the things the military needs that only one or two manufacturing sources exists. I am currently in the semiconductor industry and NASA sometimes call us for decades old products that are proven harsh environment hardened. We will provide but it will cost because we have to resurrect old recipes, older equipment, and older brains to re-make what NASA needs.
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