Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
The countries closest to Russia geographically have the most to fear if Russia wins in Ukraine. They know they might be next. So their strong stance against Nazi Russia is understandable.
The Poot-brain must not be granted an inch of soil from Ukraine. Crimea must be re-taken and re-joined with the rest of Ukraine, too. Appeasement only encourages the effing bullies like the Poot-doink. Remember Chamberlain, who flew home from Munich, promising "peace in our time." Nope, not hardly. Give them the jets, Joe. And why shouldn't Ukraine forces strike within Russia, eh?
Vietnam was a disaster because it was micro-managed by politicians. But look at the first Gulf War. Decisive victory. Ended abruptly. Mission accomplished. (Well, except that uncle Saddam was still living and breathing.)
The Poot-brain must not be granted an inch of soil from Ukraine. Crimea must be re-taken and re-joined with the rest of Ukraine, too. Appeasement only encourages the effing bullies like the Poot-doink. Remember Chamberlain, who flew home from Munich, promising "peace in our time." Nope, not hardly. Give them the jets, Joe. And why shouldn't Ukraine forces strike within Russia, eh?
Vietnam was a disaster because it was micro-managed by politicians. But look at the first Gulf War. Decisive victory. Ended abruptly. Mission accomplished. (Well, except that uncle Saddam was still living and breathing.)
People in the Donbass and Crimea do not want to be part of Ukraine. According to the international court in The Hague, a region can split from a country even against the will of that country without violating international law. That is what it said in order to justify the war of aggression against Serbia.
Also, are you consistent and also support China taking back Taiwan the way you endorse forcing people in Crimea and Donbass to live in a country they hate?
By the way, Ukraine itself only annexed Crimea in 1995, in a militant coup because since the disintegration of the SU until 1995 Crimea was a separate republic. And they have had several referendums over the decades, always opting for Russia. The 2014 referendum was not the first referendum.
The countries closest to Russia geographically have the most to fear if Russia wins in Ukraine. They know they might be next. So their strong stance against Nazi Russia is understandable.
That's nonsense. Russia has no interest in those silly countries. It was always Nato that expanded towards Russia's borders, Russia did not expand towards the west for the simple reason that there is nothing of interest, no reason. Russia lives with various neighbors that are not in Nato and yet safe.
The trick is to behave like a neighbor and not like a nazi regime threatening neighbors the way Ukraine has been doing for many years.
People in the Donbass and Crimea do not want to be part of Ukraine. According to the international court in The Hague, a region can split from a country even against the will of that country without violating international law. That is what it said in order to justify the war of aggression against Serbia.
Also, are you consistent and also support China taking back Taiwan the way you endorse forcing people in Crimea and Donbass to live in a country they hate?
By the way, Ukraine itself only annexed Crimea in 1995, in a militant coup because since the desintegration until 1995 Crimea was a separate republic.
Twisted. I'm not going to convince you otherwise. Bye.
Interesting, the Netherlands is trying to get rid of Russian diplomats, keeping them away from the International Criminal Court and the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. In view of the repeated use of banned chemical weapons by Ukraine over the past 3-4 weeks (the Ukrainians even brag about it on the Internet, there are videos), this likely means that the West wants to hide these war crimes.
Your facts are all wrong and I'm not buying them. Ukraine did provoke Russia into an attack. Ukraine shelled Donetsk since 2014 and killed thousands of people over those years. They are still doing it. Killing easy civilian targets. Basically terrorist acts. NATO expansion is another reason.
You should educate yourself on what really happened as described by numerous posters here. Oh, but I know, certain facts have to be ignored so that the required narrative is supported. Again, I'm not buying into your "facts", so you can believe what you want.
So your list of provocations is:
1) NATO expansion
2) Ukraine was shelling people in Ukraine's Donetsk
I answer these as separate topics to simplify the discussion
1) The answer is that the threat of NATO expansion does not justify killing people in Ukraine. Killing people has a very high bar for justification, and the threat of someone joining an alliance is insufficient reason to kill people.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
