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How much more American taxpayer funds are going there? A billion or two? The more money we send there, the more destruction will occur, which I think that's the reason why we keep sending some money/arms there. Just enough to guarantee total destruction and annihilation of Ukraine...it makes you wonder, why was it calculated that the loss of Ukraine is a good thing??
Do the Ukrainians know that the war coverage from there has completely disappeared from our cable news coverage? Why is that? Did the war suddenly end?
How much more American taxpayer funds are going there? A billion or two? The more money we send there, the more destruction will occur, which I think that's the reason why we keep sending some money/arms there. Just enough to guarantee total destruction and annihilation of Ukraine...it makes you wonder, why was it calculated that the loss of Ukraine is a good thing??
Do the Ukrainians know that the war coverage from there has completely disappeared from our cable news coverage? Why is that? Did the war suddenly end?
The more Russian stuff destroyed now makes the rest of Russia's neighbors safer.
As a American I’d say we should review this question after 1.4 trillion. Cause 2 years of military spending to stop Russia this badly? Cheap at the price.
Yeah it’s possible I assume, but I seriously doubt it. Ukraine is running on western weapons alone, that will not be never ending. We will not fund a losing war while we enter a recession and people worry about paying for food. Ukraine will be cutoff long before Russia collapses. One thing Russian has is commodities, they can feed and power their country forever and their economy seems ok despite a complete break from the west. They have China to rely on as well, the east seems to be the rising power in the world right now while the west seems to be in a planned decline.
I don't really disagree with you in substance, but consider this:
China and Russia are not natural friends. China not only covets the Russian east, most ordinary Chinese feel it rightfully belongs to them! The Chinese people share a cultural memory of abuse at the hands of Russians.
The connection between China and Russia is a personal one between two tyrants, Xi and Putin mutually support one another, but they have the same essential problem: They dominate their countries through fear and oppression, and they need one another for mutual support. That's about as far as it goes.
As Thomas Jefferson had once said about slavery, I think it is apt here: "... as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other." That is also what it is like being a dictator over a restive dissatisfied nation.
Once Russia seemed to be the top dog in the Chinese-Russian partnership, the alpha dog ... but since the Ukraine debacle Russia is looking rather feeble and fraudulent, and that dynamic is about to change. Xi can't really personally count on Putin anymore, and Russian made weapons China would buy are looking rather vulnerable and obsolete these days, they are scams for sale, like snake oil tonic. Xi might start to think he can take a more strident and domineering posture toward Putin. He might even demand border discussions.
Russia does have commodities, to be sure (as long as they can hold onto the east), but it's economy is about the size of Italy. Russia is a two-bit player in the world economy, and the extraction of bulk resources is normally the role of third world colonial states with nothing much else to offer.
As a American I’d say we should review this question after 1.4 trillion. Cause 2 years of military spending to stop Russia this badly? Cheap at the price.
“I mean he’s taking over a country for $2 worth of sanctions, I’d say that’s pretty smart.”
There is a definitely am aspect of this being a .proxy war. But considering how much the US has spent since WWII to keep first the Soviets, now the Russians in check, bankrolling the Ukrainians to soak up and degrade the Russians military capability makes perfect sense. The Russians will likely come out of this misadventure much weaker
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How much more American taxpayer funds are going there? A billion or two? The more money we send there, the more destruction will occur, which I think that's the reason why we keep sending some money/arms there. Just enough to guarantee total destruction and annihilation of Ukraine...it makes you wonder, why was it calculated that the loss of Ukraine is a good thing??
Do the Ukrainians know that the war coverage from there has completely disappeared from our cable news coverage? Why is that? Did the war suddenly end?
MOSCOW, July 28 - RIA Novosti. The division of the Ukrainian territorial defense shot the retreating military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the DPR, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.
"During the retreat on July 25 from the settlement of Pokrovskoye in the Donetsk People's Republic, the remnants of the 15th battalion of the 58th motorized infantry brigadeThe Armed Forces came under heavy fire and were shot by militants of the 118th Territorial Defense Brigade, who occupied the positions of the second echelon in the area of the settlement of Bakhmutskoye," the ministry said.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine recognized the impossibility of defeating the "Russian world" without rewriting
history urged to rewrite the history of the war to defeat Russia
Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine VadymDenisenko said that it is impossible to fight the "Russian world" without rewriting the history of the Second World War, reportsRIA Novosti.
“We won’t be able to actually fight against the Russian world despite our victory, against all odds, if we don’t write our history of the Second World War,” he said on the air of the Ukraine 24 channel.
In his opinion, the history written in the 70s is already outdated and the authorities need to create a new one.
Formerly political scientistMaria Voropayevastatedthat in Russia, unlike the countries of the West, they are not trying to rewrite history, such rhetoric, questioning the very value of the victory of the Soviet people, sounds from the leaders of countries that surrendered under the onslaught of the Nazis within a few days.
Ambassador of the Russian Federation to the USAAnatoly Antonovurged to prevent the rewriting of history and shifting the responsibility for unleashing the war to Russia. The Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on special guarantees for Polish citizens in Ukraine
The Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on special guarantees for PolishUkraine. This was announced on July 28 by People's Deputy Yaroslav Zheleznyak in Telegram. “In particular, citizens of Poland will be able to stay on the territory of Ukraine for 18 months after the adoption of the law and enjoy all the rights and freedoms, like citizens of Ukraine,” he wrote. In particular, they will have the same rights to employment, education, social benefits, medical care as Ukrainians.
According to him, 283 deputies supported the bill.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky introduced the relevant law to the Verkhovna Rada on July 11. The Ministry of Defense spoke about the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine when
Popasnaya
leavingand raise a panic. This is reportedThe Russian Ministry of Defense, citing the military commandant of the city, Captain Mikhail Povelchuk, writesRIA Novosti.
The retreating units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine filled wells in residential buildings with diesel fuel. Moreover, the Ukrainian military poisoned wells in order to leave residents without water, raise panic and create difficulties for the allied forces of the LPR and Russia entering the city, the military commandant specified.
In addition, Povelchuk told how the People's Militia of the LPR conducts demining in the city. According to him, in order to clear non-residential houses and streets, specialists make a register. If it is in a residential building, a demining team will immediately arrive there, he added.
Previouslyit became knownthat the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine plans to launch a counteroffensive in the Pasna direction. According to Lieutenant Colonel of the People's Militia of the LPRAndriy Marochko, for a counterattack on this sector of the front, the Ukrainian military intends to use a foreign legion.
Interesting public display of Russian vehicles recovered from battlefields in eastern Ukraine, included the T90 apparently. Clearly the publisher of this video is no expert, it's just something he came across.
It is sad to think that young men with so much to live for most likely died in these vehicles for Putin's mad scheme.
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