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The United Nations is hardly reliable given their complicity in all of this.
The UN is a multinational organization. Russia holds a seat on the Security Council, which gives them absolute veto power over UN actions. They are not complicit, and your allegations are pulled out of an orifice on your backside.
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And you failed to mention a few facts. The US was preparing the Ukrainian Army to take back the Donbass and Crimea by force during the 2014 - 2022 time period.
You can provide supporting documentation for this of course? I will wait.
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Ukraine in essence became a UN army since it was prepared and armed by them, and the border areas were heavily fortified.
Whoa. Lets hold on here. One sentence ago you were talking about US military training, and that has now changed to a "UN army". I think you missed a few steps. One of those steps would be showing the existence of a "UN army". Such a thing does not exist.
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The Ukrainian Army gathered on the border and was poised to attack just before the Russian invasion. But the Russians preempted them and attacked first. The Russian forces were outnumbered 3 to 1 by the Ukrainians, yet nevertheless progress was made that pushed the Ukrainians back.
None of this is factually correct. Or, to put it a bit more bluntly, you are lying.
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Ukraine did shell innocent civilians during the 2014 to 2022 time period. That is an undisputed fact. Putin waffled during this time and wanted to solve this problem peacefully through negotiation. But the UN led him on in this while continuing to strengthen Ukrainian forces and continued to fortify the border areas so that even an armed mouse could not get through. So it is apparent that Putin did not want to attack Ukraine just for its territory. He wanted peaceful coexistence. Otherwise, he could have rolled over a far less prepared Ukraine back in 2014.
Another bunch of lies. Ukraine did not shell civilians. There was a separatist insurrection, and some civilians did get caught in military actions waged by both the Ukrainian military and the Russian backed separatists. Putin supported the separatists as a precursor to this invasion.
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But I'm sorry, I'm introducing some uncomfortable facts that don't support the required narrative. So strike that, let's just mindlessly repeat the required mantra - Russia bad, Ukraine good. That way, you don't need to think, just repeat.
You haven't included any facts yet, much less uncomfortable ones.
The UN is a multinational organization. Russia holds a seat on the Security Council, which gives them absolute veto power over UN actions. They are not complicit, and your allegations are pulled out of an orifice on your backside.
You can provide supporting documentation for this of course? I will wait.
Whoa. Lets hold on here. One sentence ago you were talking about US military training, and that has now changed to a "UN army". I think you missed a few steps. One of those steps would be showing the existence of a "UN army". Such a thing does not exist.
None of this is factually correct. Or, to put it a bit more bluntly, you are lying.
Another bunch of lies. Ukraine did not shell civilians. There was a separatist insurrection, and some civilians did get caught in military actions waged by both the Ukrainian military and the Russian backed separatists. Putin supported the separatists as a precursor to this invasion.
You haven't included any facts yet, much less uncomfortable ones.
Whoa, you are way out there. Getting abusive in your rhetoric instead of sticking to your points dispassionately? Methinks so. Getting desperate to keep the required narrative alive? Plenty of supporting documentation can be found on this thread. I am not going to repeat them.
Yes, the US trained Ukrainians and other UN countries did too. If you didn't know, the US is a member of NATO. I said that the Ukrainian Army became essentially a UN army, not that it was manned by NATO personnel. Of course advisers and other key personnel were NATO members.
Of course, Ukraine was prepared to try to take back Donbass and the Crimea. That is still what they want to do despite their setbacks, that has not changed.
The Ukrainian Army was indeed poised to attack when they were preempted by a Russian attack by an outnumbered force. This has also been discussed on this thread several times. Yet the Russians still made progress.
Certainly, Ukraine deliberately shelled civilians and Putin moved his forces to protect them. The fact that you don't like that doesn't make it untrue.
Sorry to burst your "head in the sand" bubble, but that is the reality of the situation.
Whoa, you are way out there. Getting abusive in your rhetoric instead of sticking to your points dispassionately? Methinks so. Getting desperate to keep the required narrative alive? Plenty of supporting documentation can be found on this thread. I am not going to repeat them.
Yes, the US trained Ukrainians and other UN countries did too. If you didn't know, the US is a member of NATO. I said that the Ukrainian Army became essentially a UN army, not that it was manned by NATO personnel. Of course advisers and other key personnel were NATO members.
Of course, Ukraine was prepared to try to take back Donbass and the Crimea. That is still what they want to do despite their setbacks, that has not changed.
The Ukrainian Army was indeed poised to attack when they were preempted by a Russian attack by an outnumbered force. This has also been discussed on this thread several times. Yet the Russians still made progress.
Certainly, Ukraine deliberately shelled civilians and Putin moved his forces to protect them. The fact that you don't like that doesn't make it untrue.
Sorry to burst your "head in the sand" bubble, but that is the reality of the situation.
You seem confused. There is a difference between NATO and the UN, and I never mentioned NATO in my post.
That isn't the only confusion, misinformation, and falsehood in your posts. This may not be the topic for you to engage in, you are obviously not prepared to deal in reality.
You mean you want the Russians to cede territory to Ukraine to end the war? That's a great idea!!!!
This war is ABOUT THE VAST OIL RESERVES IN UKRAINE, THE UKRAINE/RUSSIAN PIPELINE TO EUROPE, WATER TO CRIMEA, AND THAT IS IT.
How to end it? Have the US broker a deal between Russia and Ukraine to jointly develop the vast oil and gas reserves so that both countries get fabulously rich from the profits, rather than destroying themselves. HOWEVER, WE HAVE AN IDIOT IN THE OVAL OFFICE, NOT A STATESMAN. Therefore we have no one to broker such a deal.
Yep, Russia can't be trusted to honor any deal or agreement.
In 1994 a deal was brokered between Russia, the US, and the UK to respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty. Russia violated that deal when it invaded Crimea and the donbass regions in 2014 and the rest of Ukraine in 2022. One would have to be naive or clueless to think that Russia will honor any deal or agreement.
In the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, the United States, Russia, and Britain committed “to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and “to refrain from the threat or use of force” against the country. Those assurances played a key role in persuading the Ukrainian government in Kyiv to give up what amounted to the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal, consisting of some 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads.
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Unfortunately, Russia has broken virtually all the commitments it undertook in that document. It used military force to seize, and then illegally annex, Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula in early 2014. Russian and Russian proxy forces have waged war for more than five years in the eastern Ukrainian region of Donbas, claiming more than 13,000 lives and driving some two million people from their homes.
And the Ukrainian bots keep repeating their lies and "data". Over and over without looking at inconvenient facts. Their job is to keep a fantasy alive. Yes, the required narrative. It must continue.
The fantasy that is endangering the world right now is the Russian fantasy of thinking that they are still an empire. They are a traumatized society, ruled by the champions of imperial resentment and dangerous narcissistic nostalgia.
Russian has now replaced paper records with a unified database of eligible draftees:
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1/ The Russian government has created a new unified database listing all of those eligible for military service, to make it easier to mobilise people, better able to screen out those with exemptions and catch 'evaders' at border checkpoints and via facial recognition cameras.
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11/ Additionally, it's intended to help track down so-called 'evaders' – those who are trying to avoid military service. The database includes mobile phone numbers and photographs. This will enable 'evaders' to be tracked down by geolocating their mobile phone signals, as well as enabling the authorities to use CCTV cameras with facial recognition systems to track down those trying to evade mobilisation.
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15/ While all of this doesn't necessarily mean that another wave of mobilisation is imminent, it's likely to significantly improve the Russian government's ability to do it more quickly and efficiently, with less evasion and less controversy from the wrong people being mobilised.
The fantasy that is endangering the world right now is the Russian fantasy of thinking that they are still an empire. They are a traumatized society, ruled by the champions of imperial resentment and dangerous narcissistic nostalgia.
I agree. I have been saying there is something wrong with Russian society, but maybe a kinder way of saying the same thing is to call them traumatized.
After all, the civilian population provided the military forces the people who shot unarmed civilians, and the ones who shelled occupied buildings.
The Russian offensive has already started. It is that weak.
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