Italy: No Longer Offering Respirators to Those Over 60 (financial, federal government, states)
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It's a factory, not a text message. You don't get retooled in 0.33 seconds.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Italy and Spain are not 1st World Countries. They claim to be, but if you've ever spent any time there, and I have, you'd know they have one foot in the 2nd World and one foot in the 3rd World with a veneer of 1st World.
Both countries have a North-South Dichotomy. Northern Italy is wealthy, while southern Italy is dirt-poor. You laugh at Mississippi and Alabama, well obviously you haven't been to southern Italy.
How do you explain that Lombardie is the hot bed of contaminations and deaths then?
So much for critical and informed thinking... such stupid things posted (everywhere, not only on CD)
File it under; when the state controls the supply of _______
Nothing prevented you or I from acquiring a ventilator, for back up, like a home generator, a year ago. We could have split the cost and alternated location, say every other month. We could meet up in say Springfield, IL.
Nearly everything operates on “ just in time” inventory. Nothing prevented your or my local hospital from stockpiling hundreds- thousands of ventilators just in case a once every 100 year global pandemic were to happen. The cost would become a part of hospital overhead and baked into the price of every service. Assume they would become obsolete at some point and require replacement.
States, not the Federal government, control the number of hospital beds in the state. Like hotels, it all depends on occupancy rates. Most hospitals tend to operate near full capacity during flu season, just like a resort in Florida, during the winter. Unoccupied rooms are a financial drain.
The free market works. Your ideology, which is a failure, is the very definition of stupidity.
...newsflash, when you make things up, you'll get called on it.
No such thing as free market healthcare, anywhere.
Let me take that back, maybe it exists in the bush in Africa. Witch doctor waves a monkey tail and burns incense. Then you die. Dad gives your sister to the witch doctor as payment.
In 20 plus years I've never seen healthcare rationed. They make decisions based on potential outcome, legal directives and family. If someone has 5 bullet holes in them and their prognosis is extremely poor they will still treat until they can not get the heart beating again, or directives state no extraordinary measures. If the hospital is unable to handle more patients they'll find a hospital that can take them and send them there, many times they'll life flight them.
Not talking about ER. The 35 year old EMTLA addresses this.
For example, Cancers are not treated in the ER.
There is no question those with more resources , regardless of how acquired, have more options than those without resources.
Healthcare is rationed everywhere in good times and bad. How it’s rationed is the variable.
If there’s only one respirator and 5 people need it, there needs to be an objective protocol as to who gets it.
Age and underlying health condition are factors to be considered.
It becomes a slippery slope when one gets into the weeds of the value of any given life. Does an otherwise healthy 30 year old gang banger with multiple violent felonies trump a 67 year old who lived his life, paid taxes, stayed out of trouble but has a multitude of preexisting health conditions?
Are you going to run criminal background checks and FICO scores?
Anyone think Ivanka Trump won’t get a ventilator before average guy of same age and health, in the remote case it is necessary?
Anyone think some people don’t have a $35.000 ventilator in their possession and are capable of creating their own ICU, if necessary?
Right. A very elderly person w/ multiple health issues and poor prognoses doesn't get the amount of care someone younger w/ less health issues gets. Many times they don't want it and neither does the family
Again, healthcare is rationed everywhere. How it’s rationed is the variable.
When demand exceeds supply, decisions have to be made.
True, I'm glad I'm not in the position to have to make those decisions, but yeah, at some point you have to be pragmatic. I understand that, just seeing it written down in print sorta makes it more real so to speak.
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