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Old 03-23-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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File it under; when the state controls the supply of _______
Agreed.
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Old 03-23-2020, 09:43 AM
 
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Dang - you went from stating that 60 is too young - to cremating them.

I assume you aren't being crude about it - but that was quite a pivot you did there.

I had just watched a video in Italy showing massive amount of coffins just being put in churches/buildings so it was on my mind. I don't mean to sound insensitive but if things don't look like they are goign to slow down & only get worse. Might be something that needs to be done. People who prepare the bodies have to be subject to possibly getting sick.
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Old 03-23-2020, 09:56 AM
 
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Agreed.
And how many private companies are coming thru for the over 60 crowd? How many corporations are retooling to accommodate?
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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I find myself wondering if my CPAP machine might help.
Probably a little. I rarely used it anymore, so I used it last night. Felt pretty good!
I had one prescribed in January. But have not received it yet. Backlogged, I've read they share some parts with ventilators.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:16 AM
 
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This could get uglier than it already has been.

Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60

Israeli doctor Gai Peleg, who is currently working to save lives in Parma, Italy, told Channel 12 that things are only getting worse as the number of patients keeps growing.

As his department receives coronavirus patients who are terminally ill the focus is to allow patients to meet loved ones and communicate with them during their last moments despite the quarantine regulations. Other reports claim that, as the numbers of dead increases, some families find themselves unable to secure a proper burial for their loved ones.

Peleg said that, from what he sees and hears in the hospital, the instructions are not to offer access to artificial respiratory machines to patients over 60 as such machines are limited in number.


I'm confident in believing that certain people over 60 would have access.
I watched a video last night of a doctor in Spain crying because they had to make the decision to not allow anyone over 65 to have a respirator when a younger person needed it. All they could do was medicate the older person so they wouldn't suffer while dying. It's horrible.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:17 AM
 
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And how many private companies are coming thru for the over 60 crowd? How many corporations are retooling to accommodate?
In Italy? Probably not much since the government controls most of the healthcare spending.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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Missed in all the drama was the use of the term "terminally ill" which could mean the person is already deemed terminal from some other pre-existing condition.

I would not think a person 60 years of age would automatically be deemed terminal simply because of contracting Covid-19.

Perhaps the press have taken some liberty with the doctor's quote and served up only that part serving some agenda? Just say'n.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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I had just watched a video in Italy showing massive amount of coffins just being put in churches/buildings so it was on my mind. I don't mean to sound insensitive but if things don't look like they are goign to slow down & only get worse. Might be something that needs to be done. People who prepare the bodies have to be subject to possibly getting sick.
That makes sense.

I wasn't trying to be mean - it just threw me for a loop.
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Old 03-23-2020, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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File it under; when the state controls the supply of _______
What if someone proves they paid taxes and voted?

Won't they get a respirator? That was part of the deal, no?

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Old 03-23-2020, 10:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I watched a video last night of a doctor in Spain crying because they had to make the decision to not allow anyone over 65 to have a respirator when a younger person needed it. All they could do was medicate the older person so they wouldn't suffer while dying. It's horrible.
Gotta love countries with socialized medicine....NOT
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