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Old 07-20-2009, 08:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
Now I get it. "Patriots" will ignore the rules of law established by their elected representatives and do what they want regardless.

Why didn't I think of that?
you probably did, long ago... then your mom spanked you.

 
Old 07-20-2009, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits?
None of the above.

People in this country are fine, as long as they've got their gasoline, cable tv, iPods, food, electricity, heat in the winter and coolers in the summer.

True revolution won't come until you take all of these things away.

Wake up one day and find your gas stations closed, cable tv gone, cell phone not working, grocery stores closed, lights off and .... Shazam ... it's time to take up arms.

Our founding fathers went to war over a stupid little 3% tax on, of all things, tea ... Americans will go to war and fight over some of the dumbest things ... but when the real important stuff is threatened ... we all just seem to roll over, wanting another hour of sleep.

Americans, colonialists, or otherwise, won't rebell until something they love is threatened.

Americans love their electricity, cars and iPods much more than they could ever love this country.

Give 'em an iPod, and it's to hell with the rest of the country.

Americans, by and large, don't care if America becomes socialist, communist, facist, or any of that ... just so long as they can chase that pretty girl, watch Oprah, have a beer, play on the computer, or talk on the wireless all day.

America goes to war over "things" ... not principles or ideology.
 
Old 07-20-2009, 08:34 PM
 
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seriously. When our currency fails? When the bureaucrats socialize healthcare? When the supreme court rules the DC gun ban constitutional? When the government defaults on social security and medicare benefits? How much longer will we take violations of state's rights, private property rights, privacy rights, and our nation's sovereignty?

The founding fathers were up in arms over a small tax on imported tea. Where's the civil disobedience at? Where are the protests? Where's our Boston Tea Party? Is America too apathetic and/or spineless to make a stand? Will we submit to fascism and totalitarianism of the federal bureaucracy? Or will we rally as our founding fathers did in an effort for our God given liberty? Who will make a stand with me?
gun sales are way up!
 
Old 07-20-2009, 08:37 PM
 
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It's always time for an armed revolution! Revolutions have a right to have arms same as the rest of us, it's called the Second Amendment! If you take arms away from a revolution then you will take that revolution's freedom, and later even, his soul.
 
Old 07-20-2009, 08:38 PM
 
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None of the above.

People in this country are fine, as long as they've got their gasoline, cable tv, iPods, food, electricity, heat in the winter and coolers in the summer.

True revolution won't come until you take all of these things away.

Wake up one day and find your gas stations closed, cable tv gone, cell phone not working, grocery stores closed, lights off and .... Shazam ... it's time to take up arms.

Our founding fathers went to war over a stupid little 3% tax on, of all things, tea ... Americans will go to war and fight over some of the dumbest things ... but when the real important stuff is threatened ... we all just seem to roll over, wanting another hour of sleep.

Americans, colonialists, or otherwise, won't rebell until something they love is threatened.

Americans love their electricity, cars and iPods much more than they could ever love this country.

Give 'em an iPod, and it's to hell with the rest of the country.

Americans, by and large, don't care if America becomes socialist, communist, facist, or any of that ... just so long as they can chase that pretty girl, watch Oprah, have a beer, play on the computer, or talk on the wireless all day.

America goes to war over "things" ... not principles or ideology.
government and business know this all too well.
 
Old 07-20-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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gun sales are way up!
Nope. Too many dopes loaded up on WASRs and AR-15s and are getting burned badly. Another bubble popped!
 
Old 07-20-2009, 09:34 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You folks scare me and I'm not scared of anything.
 
Old 07-20-2009, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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You folks scare me and I'm not scared of anything.
You should be more scared about the possibility of choosing the wrong side. Government apologists should see what people like my father did to his country's government officials when his merry band of rebels stormed the prisons and secret police offices, using weapons supplied to them by defectors and law enforcement officials. I'm very proud of people like him.
 
Old 07-20-2009, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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You folks scare me and I'm not scared of anything.
Yup ... revolution can be a rather uncomfortable, messy business.

Revolution means that you would give up your home and family and go trotting off to some unfamiliar place in order to shoot someone you never met before. All the while knowing that back home, some stranger could be shooting your family and burning up your home.

You wouldn't be able to even drive your own car, for fear of being tracked down by the opposition. You might even change your name so that friends at home don't think you are the one being shown on the 10 oclock news at night.

You, as a revolutionary, would have to be responsible for blowing up all of those bridges that your fellow Americans poured their blood, sweat, and tears into to build over the years.

You, as a revolutionary, will find yourself hiding in the darkest dank corners of the sewer ... in the worst of conditions .. never trusting anyone new that comes along. You'll be forced to question everyone all of the time because as the revolutionary ... you will never know just where the assassins are.

You, as the revolutionary, will never be sure just how large your force or cause is. We're 20 million strong one minute, and then you'll question the number after seeing the news and fret that there are only 20.000 of you .... you'll never know.

----

Enter the real world;

The only way that we are ever going to get back to the square one basics, is if our federal government collapses in upon itself.
Monitary collapse would be the safest, best route, I feel .. because though it leaves us with a mess ... we'll come out of it being the better nation for it.

If you want folks to wake up to what's going on in DC, just fool with their money ... that'll get 'em woke up pretty darn quick ... and as a result, Americans will not be so apt to fall for the two party company line, and start voting some decency back into the Congress for a change.

 
Old 07-20-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yup ... revolution can be a rather uncomfortable, messy business.

Revolution means that you would give up your home and family and go trotting off to some unfamiliar place in order to shoot someone you never met before. All the while knowing that back home, some stranger could be shooting your family and burning up your home.

You wouldn't be able to even drive your own car, for fear of being tracked down by the opposition. You might even change your name so that friends at home don't think you are the one being shown on the 10 oclock news at night.

You, as a revolutionary, would have to be responsible for blowing up all of those bridges that your fellow Americans poured their blood, sweat, and tears into to build over the years.

You, as a revolutionary, will find yourself hiding in the darkest dank corners of the sewer ... in the worst of conditions .. never trusting anyone new that comes along. You'll be forced to question everyone all of the time because as the revolutionary ... you will never know just where the assassins are.

You, as the revolutionary, will never be sure just how large your force or cause is. We're 20 million strong one minute, and then you'll question the number after seeing the news and fret that there are only 20.000 of you .... you'll never know.

----

Enter the real world;

The only way that we are ever going to get back to the square one basics, is if our federal government collapses in upon itself.
Monitary collapse would be the safest, best route, I feel .. because though it leaves us with a mess ... we'll come out of it being the better nation for it.

If you want folks to wake up to what's going on in DC, just fool with their money ... that'll get 'em woke up pretty darn quick ... and as a result, Americans will not be so apt to fall for the two party company line, and start voting some decency back into the Congress for a change.

There's another side to that coin.

As a government official, no matter how high up you are, you'd be at risk of being shot, blown up (think IRA style pipe bomb), torched, or captured and Lord knows what done to you. Executive branch or legislative branch members would fear for their lives not knowing if their underlings will do them in (even Hitler had assassins within arm's length). Citizens could murder a congressman or senator in their home and film the event as propaganda for fellow revolutionaries. Military officials would join the ranks of some well organized militia, bringing with them automatic rifles, explosives, armored transports, tanks, perhaps even planes. The floodgates would be opened for contraband coming to ports no longer able to be protected by customs, or easily bribed. An unprotected federal government official would, by default, be lined up against a wall and shot within moments of capture. Rarely would a prisoner be taken, unless the crowd capturing him/her could be calmed and it was worth the risk towards a ransom. Mob gangsters killed local law enforcement as well as FBI agents without batting an eye, and we weren't even in a revolution.

Of course, it can't happen here because we're "special".
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