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Old 10-29-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Americans. It's not longer OK to refer to yourself as a "hard worker" because the term is offensive to the "Slave Experience".


MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry claims the term 'hard worker' is an insult to slaves | Daily Mail Online
I didnt read the link, but i watched her show, so im guessing this is a response to text book publisher referring to them as "workers" and not slaves as if to white wash history.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The bigger question: Who keeps pictures of slaves in the cotton fields on their office wall?
Lots of religious people do, the people just happen to be white and in the desert in their pictures.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I didnt read the link, but i watched her show, so im guessing this is a response to text book publisher referring to them as "workers" and not slaves as if to white wash history.
Bad guess.

Melissa Harris-Perry Scolds Guest to Be 'Super Careful' About Saying 'Hard Worker' Because Of Slavery - Washington Free Beacon

ALFONSO AGUILAR: But let’s be fair. If there’s somebody who is a hard worker when he goes to Washington, it’s Paul Ryan. Not only works with the Republicans but Democrats. You know very well that I work on [the] immigration issue, trying to get Republicans to support immigration reform. Paul Ryan is somebody who has supported immigration reform, has worked with somebody like Luis Gutierrez. Luis Gutierrez is very respectful, speaks highly of Paul Ryan. This is somebody who’s trying to govern.


MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY: Alfonso, I feel you. But I just want to pause on one thing. Because I don’t disagree with you that I actually think Mr. Ryan is a great choice for this role. But I want us to be super careful when we use the language “hard worker,” because I actually keep an image of folks working in cotton fields on my office wall, because it is a reminder about what hard work looks like. So, I feel you that he’s a hard worker. I do. But in the context of relative privilege, and I just want to point out that when you talk about work-life balance and being a hard worker, the moms who don’t have health care who are working–
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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Bad guess.

Melissa Harris-Perry Scolds Guest to Be 'Super Careful' About Saying 'Hard Worker' Because Of Slavery - Washington Free Beacon

ALFONSO AGUILAR: But let’s be fair. If there’s somebody who is a hard worker when he goes to Washington, it’s Paul Ryan. Not only works with the Republicans but Democrats. You know very well that I work on [the] immigration issue, trying to get Republicans to support immigration reform. Paul Ryan is somebody who has supported immigration reform, has worked with somebody like Luis Gutierrez. Luis Gutierrez is very respectful, speaks highly of Paul Ryan. This is somebody who’s trying to govern.


MELISSA HARRIS-PERRY: Alfonso, I feel you. But I just want to pause on one thing. Because I don’t disagree with you that I actually think Mr. Ryan is a great choice for this role. But I want us to be super careful when we use the language “hard worker,” because I actually keep an image of folks working in cotton fields on my office wall, because it is a reminder about what hard work looks like. So, I feel you that he’s a hard worker. I do. But in the context of relative privilege, and I just want to point out that when you talk about work-life balance and being a hard worker, the moms who don’t have health care who are working–
You aren't helping your case. This quote just makes her seem even more irritating. Why must she always see everything through a prism of race/feminism/etc.? Let's face it, she doesn't like Paul Ryan and thinks he's just another white man with privilege who wants to hurt moms who don't have healthcare who are working. There's a debate to be had there, but why bring it up in the context of saying Paul Ryan is a hard worker? It just makes her seem like an out-of-touch academe who wants to change the language on everything because of ... what? White privilege? Patriarchy?
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You aren't helping your case. This quote just makes her seem even more irritating. Why must she always see everything through a prism of race/feminism/etc.? Let's face it, she doesn't like Paul Ryan and thinks he's just another white man with privilege
Interesting point. What if I think Obama is a Black man with privilege? He went to Hawaii's most expensive private school. We couldn't afford any such thing for our kids.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You aren't helping your case. This quote just makes her seem even more irritating. Why must she always see everything through a prism of race/feminism/etc.? Let's face it, she doesn't like Paul Ryan and thinks he's just another white man with privilege who wants to hurt moms who don't have healthcare who are working. There's a debate to be had there, but why bring it up in the context of saying Paul Ryan is a hard worker? It just makes her seem like an out-of-touch academe who wants to change the language on everything because of ... what? White privilege? Patriarchy?
I posted the actual quote. What she actually said, not what some think she said or claimed she said.

Her point may be weak or irritating, but no where did she introduce race. She didn't say white privilege which I'm pretty sure is a term with which she is familiar. She said relative privilege, if she meant white privilege I'm pretty sure she would have said it.

In my opinion her interjecting her pet peeve on the use of the expression "hard work" did detract from the rest of the segment which was on Paul Ryan's support for hard workers other than himself. The privilege in this case being Ryan's ability to dictate his own work hours with set aside for family time, when many if not most workers (hard or otherwise) don't have that option.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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I posted the actual quote. What she actually said, not what some think she said or claimed she said.

Her point may be weak or irritating, but no where did she introduce race. She didn't say white privilege which I'm pretty sure is a term with which she is familiar. She said relative privilege, if she meant white privilege I'm pretty sure she would have said it.

In my opinion her interjecting her pet peeve on the use of the expression "hard work" did detract from the rest of the segment which was on Paul Ryan's support for hard workers other than himself. The privilege in this case being Ryan's ability to dictate his own work hours with set aside for family time, when many if not most workers (hard or otherwise) don't have that option.
It sounds like Perry was laying in wait for some poor sap to use the term 'hard work.'

Maybe the image on her wall includes non-black people picking cotton in 2015, but please don't pretend the words 'folks working in cotton fields' wasn't intended to introduce an image of slavery.
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Old 10-29-2015, 11:47 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Funny assertion considering the topic of this thread. This thread is based on imagined words that Harris-Perry said, while I have based my views on the words she actually said.

Where in Harris-Perry's statement did she "seem to look down on those who have not" progressed their "way past the physical requirement of hard labor?" In fact the point Harris-Perry was attempting to make was that people who have "past the physical requirement of hard labor" should not look down on or feel superior to those who haven't.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Americans. It's not longer OK to refer to yourself as a "hard worker" because the term is offensive to the "Slave Experience".
I've seen a lot of cripples who were hard-workers.
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Old 10-29-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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I didn't read the link or read through this whole thread, obviously this is a huge trend and that's what I'm focused on.

Really, why aren't black people standing up and protesting this garbage? Liberals are using them hardcore. It would be amazing to see African Americans in uproar over their constant portrayal as victims. Instead its more of an amplification, they seem to embrace victimhood the more its discussed, or at least the ones that are willing to come out and voice they're opinion to the world.
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