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Old 10-28-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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It may not be much of a leap, but people are now attacking her for something she didn't say. There were multiple places in her statement where she could have made it racial or about slavery, but she didn't. Instead of folks she could have said slaves or instead of the relative privilege she could have said white privilege. But she did not. Its not like these terms would have been foreign to her.

I know in my own life there are times when I have complained about some trifling matter with by job or some other situation. At those times I have to remind myself how fortunate I am. I usually think back to some of the summer jobs I've had and the people who were not doing those jobs for just a summer. In my career there have been some unbelievable long weeks and months, but overall I've had it pretty good.

So Harris-Perry uses a picture of folks working in cotton fields to remind herself. That is offensive how?
Why would she pause a guest and say we have to be careful about talking about people working hard?
The picture that she keeps to remind herself isn't offensive it's the notion that the term "hard work" shouldn't be used because it invokes slavery in some way.

She didn't come right out and say it because she was trying to be coy about it. It's pretty clear what she was inferring, if she wasn't, why call someone out for referring to hard work?
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Why is slavery even connected to Harris-Perry's point? She didn't mention slavery.
For those like you who are committed to ignoring what she meant and said, what exactly was she referring to when she said pictures of those picking cotton in the fields from a century and a half years ago?

I can hardly wait for this spin of an answer.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ever notice the loony toons that are on MSNBC? Actually how could anyone not see how weird they think.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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You mean the right.

Isn't that the point of this entire thread- controlling speech?

I'm guess the irony is lost on most.
No, the point is to point out how biased she is and what she actually said/meant, no matter how those like you try to divert or hijack the thread.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Not only did I read the article, but I watched the linked video. It doesn't surprise me at all the Daily Mail would take liberties with what she said; particularly in their headline.

What she said from the article.

"because I actually keep an image of folks working in cotton fields"

What the Daily Mail claimed in there bullet points under the headline.

She explained she kept a picture of slaves working in cotton fields as a reminder of what 'hard work' looks like
Read more: MSNBC's Melissa Harris-Perry claims the term 'hard worker' is an insult to slaves | Daily Mail Online

Harris-Perry never mentions slaves.
Pray tell, what other class of people would she be keeping a picture of as an example of hard working?

She claims to think that no one not picking cotton is a hard worker.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Why would she pause a guest and say we have to be careful about talking about people working hard?
The picture that she keeps to remind herself isn't offensive it's the notion that the term "hard work" shouldn't be used because it invokes slavery in some way.

She didn't come right out and say it because she was trying to be coy about it. It's pretty clear what she was inferring, if she wasn't, why call someone out for referring to hard work?
Harris-Perry never claimed it "invokes slavery in some way."

Is Paul Ryan's "hard work" equivalent to the "hard work" that some agricultural workers perform on a daily basis or as katygirl68 wrote in this thread "doctors working 36-hour shifts at the ER? "
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Ever notice the loony toons that are on MSNBC? Actually how could anyone not see how weird they think.
Part of their new programming is to throw a dart at a random page of the dictionary and whatever word the dart hits, they have a competition to see who can link the word to a racists insult.

Rumor is 'link' will be the next banned word as it refers to a link in the chain that bound slaves.

No more, 'open this link....'.

'Sky' is next as slaves worked for the most part in the open air under the sky.
the human caused global warming crowd has some issue with that as it mucks up their promise that the sky is falling.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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I think her implications are obvious, but I think it went right over many people's heads.

I suppose if the picture in her office was "folks" working in strawberry or tomato fields so many wouldn't have leapt to the conclusion she was talking about slavery.

I think she was talking about "folks" who actually do back breaking work everyday of their lives.
Which would exclude all those that she knows and all of her supporters.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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The conversation was actually about Paul Ryan. This woman interrupts it to push her personal agenda, and it's pretty clear what she meant. Of course she didn't use the word Slave because even she knows that would get her laughed out of that room. So the reference is indirect and she goes on with another mimes "relative privilege" (aka, White Males), that usually accompanies these sorts of arguments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKdtAxXGh-Y
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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For those like you who are committed to ignoring what she meant and said, what exactly was she referring to when she said pictures of those picking cotton in the fields from a century and a half years ago?

I can hardly wait for this spin of an answer.
How do you know when the picture is from?
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